Apologies. This might not be the perfect community for the post.

    • @lars
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      And in the US, there’s definitely a subset that believes England means Great Britain or even the United Kingdom.

      Same folks that referred to the entire USSR as Russia, probs.

        • Bob
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          Using any country’s capital as shorthand for its current government is a common form of metonymy to be fair!

          • @lars
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            That’s one of my favorite nyms

        • GreatAlbatross
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          And there are plenty of people in russia who think everything that was ever USSR should be russia.

          • Echo Dot
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            It’s basically the same argument Argentina has about the Falkland Islands. When Argentina was part of the Spanish empire the Falkland Islands were part of the empire, not that the Spanish did anything with the islands. But at no time in history has Argentina existed as an independent country and has had ownership of the islands.

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          & vers vicea

  • @rmuk@feddit.uk
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    This chart: “England, Scotland and Wales are in Great Britain”

    Wight, the Scillies, Anglesey, Sheppy, Anglesey, the Shetlands, the Orkneys, the Hebrides, and thousands more: “Are we a joke to you?”

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        I’m trying to remember though, aren’t the Jersey, Guernsey, and Man somehow closer to Scotland or Wales status than say Sheppey or the Orkneys?

        • @Blackmist@feddit.uk
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          Yeah, the channel islands and the Isle of Man have more autonomy. Officially they are “self-governing British Crown Dependencies”.

          Jersey and Guernsey have different VAT rates for instance. For years, play.com was based in Jersey solely so they wouldn’t have to pay VAT on most of the cheaper stuff they sold to the mainland.

    • @Rodeo@lemmy.ca
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      Aren’t those all part of one of the other three? The orkneys and Hebrides are part of Scotland.

      • @rmuk@feddit.uk
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        But they are all part of England, Scotland or Wales which, according to the diagram, are within Great Britain…

    • @lars
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      Atlantic Archipelago

      this is totally the Bahamas. Or Palm Beach condos.

    • @MisterFrog@lemmy.world
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      Britannia and Hibernia. Brittano-Hibernian Islands? Atlantic archipelago seems vague as an outsider from neither Britain or Ireland.

  • @smeg@feddit.uk
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    FYI “British Islands” isn’t a specific name whereas all the others are

    • @lars
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      I’m not sure I follow. It looks as specific in the diagram as all the other names?

      • @smeg@feddit.uk
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        It’s not an actual term that is used though. “Great Britain” and “Ireland” are the names of the islands, “the United Kingdom” and “(the Republic of) Ireland” are the names of the sovereign states, “the British Isles” is (one) name for all the bits of land. “British Islands” is not an official term or one that anyone uses.

    • nfh
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      show the entire commonwealth, and every place the UK has ever colonized?

        • nfh
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          pretty much! The commonwealth is what the British empire became, most former British colonies are members, and King Charles is its head, though most member states are republics now, and don’t have him as their king. It’s a mostly-cerrmonial political group that occasionally does things like promote trade or diplomacy

    • Ephera
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      For a moment, I thought, this comment was in response to the Europe map someone else posted. There the answer would have been easy, of course: Eurovision. 🙃

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    The Scots wouldn’t agree with this. I’ve spent a lot of time there.

    The Shetlands, Orkneys, Harris and the rest of the Hebrides aren’t even mentioned. Haha

    • @lars
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      The North shall rise again

    • Bob
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      Well, Scots would often say “we’re not British but we are Scottish” since British usually means “from the UK” but I don’t think any of them would deny that most of Scotland is in Great Britain.

    • @rmuk@feddit.uk
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      And Anglesey in Wales, and Wight in England, etc. Honestly I’m not a fan of this diagram.

    • @yak@lmy.brx.io
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      Those are groups of northern islands, so they were excluded. Unlike Northern Ireland, which isn’t an island so it was included.

      ???

  • @incogtino@lemmy.zip
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    This is a good way to distinguish the terms. I wonder if there is a good colour scheme to also indicate the nation states as district from the landmasses

  • @Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works
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    The words that ultimately gave us “Britain” have been in use for about 2,000 years, give or take a century or two. Politically and culturally a tremendous lot has happened in the meantime. Which is probably why we’re left with this almost indecipherable mine field.

    • @lars
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      And it doesn’t even include Bretagne.

      • @Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works
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        Tell me about it. Immigrants? From Britain? Taking over (culturally) a foreign land. You couldn’t make it up. I once witnessed some drunk Bretons speaking to some drunk Welsh in their respective languages… and “kind of” understanding each other.

  • @schnokobaer@lemmy.ml
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    Now if someone can tell me what exactly “Britain” is? People say it all the time, like this is the largest statue of a vulva in Britain. Just shorthand for Great Britain, or is it something else?

    • @Diobhal@ttrpg.network
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      Just that - shorthand for Great Britain. Easier to use when you don’t think it’s so great, like if you live in the Republic of Ireland!

      • @lars
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        Republic of Ireland

        Which on the diagram is coterminous with “Ireland (state)”?

        • @Diobhal@ttrpg.network
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          Exactly - that’s it’s proper name and how it’s distinguished from Northern Ireland since they share the land mass of Ireland

          • @Diobhal@ttrpg.network
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            You did a great job on this though, OP. It’s difficult to explain to non-nationals with no idea of the history, so this is very helpful

    • Echo Dot
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      It’s like saying America to mean the United States. Technically America includes Canada and excludes Hawaii. But when people say America they actually mean US + Alaska and Hawaii but not Canada.

  • Xavienth
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    The Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland should pull an epic gamer move and simplify this chart.