Ha. I like the vga part but the part that makes your usb - c connector look like an old fashioned proprietary apple lightening connector is just too much!
Thank you for pointing that out, I didn’t notice it lmao
(I think that was a joke, it IS actually a lightning cable)
Yeah I’m not entirely sure, but it WOULD be possible to print a sticker like that
I know, I had to look at it for a while but the side edges in the pictures are rather sharp while a USB connector would have a completely round edge…
But which side would you put it on?
The outside
That reminds me of a joke about a dead baby and a blender.
Am I missing something? That’s Apple’s proprietary connector, all right. But it’s not “old-fashioned” in that it’s still currently used for new devices (at least for iPads in the US).
Left: USB-C connector
Right: Apple Lightning connectorAnd USB-C has the wires on the inside (which then goes inside the port on the device). So, unless I’m mistaken, they weren’t trying to look like anything other than the VGA part, because this connector wouldn’t work for anything other than an Apple device…
I believe the joke is calling Apple old fashioned for still sticking to a proprietary cable and/or calling proprietary cables old-fashioned in general. But also, Apple will be switching the iPhone cables to USB-C next gen iirc, so maybe it’s also old fashioned that way?
Apple has already switched their whole lineup to USB-C as far as I can tell, currently replying to this from my USB-C iPhone 15. Even my AirPods are USB-C.
Thanks to EU regulations.
EU, I belive in you!
I believe in EU!
Huh? Both my M1 air and iPad Pro only use USB-C. Do some of the iPads still use Apple’s lightning? These are the only two apple products I own, so I have never had any other connector. Except for a couple random items (stupid mouse), everything I own can use the same charger. Packing and traveling is so much easier.
There’s a lot of iPad Gen 1-9s out there. Not to mention iPods and older iPhones…
I knew the phones and older devices had not, but I didn’t think there were newish models of the iPads that hadn’t switched to USB-C like the Pro line did.
I seriously love it. I can use the USB4/Thunderbolt ports to connect to my Dell monitor that includes PD (power delivery) and have 1 cable for everything. All of the ports for a keyboard, flash drives, Ethernet, whatever are on the monitor.
Ah, yeah that’s true. I know we get used to only the absolute newest things being the norm, but… they still sell the Lightning models all over the world. Even in the US, this is straight from their website:
(In case it’s not obvious, the USB-C port is on the wall charger. The actual iPad has the Lightning connector.)
Our new iPad 10 came with a usb c connector too. In the US.
It’s progress! I believe that’s the only regular iPad that has ever come with USB-C. Thank the EU, which required it! Gens 1-9 had the proprietary Lightning connector…
It’s actually kind of a pain because we have so many lightning cables set up where the old iPad (RIP) and our older phones charge.
I’m also a little dubious of the longevity of usb-c ports. 2 of the 4 on my MacBook are less that reliable when plugged into the charger.
Hopefully the iPad works out. The last one lasted us almost 10 years.
You could put a sticker on the left one and (from the right angle) make it look like the right one.
look at the vga connector again. it has a little icon on it that looks like a usbc slot
You mean this? That’s on every VGA cable…
That one is a rectangle inside a rectangle. The one in the OP looks like a capsule shape inside a rectangle, more like a usbc connector, so i assumed it was an intentional add by the the person who made the thing as another layer on top of the joke.
But yeah it could also be just someone trying to be clever while whining about usbc not being adopted by iphones sooner, and the icon is off because it’s designed to be made with 3d printer without a high enough level of precision
It’s not the same without two little screws jangling about
I had fuckin bent pins and pins falling out of my vga connector. I had to straighten them and align them. Good times.
You could take the screws out of your iPhone and glue them onto the knobs, it’ll void your AppleCare though.
How about display port that looks like HDMI? Oh wait…
You Villain!
No, how about DVI that looks like HDMI? Hold on…
Explaination: basically HDMI is patent-troll-guarded version of DVI with some additional(and useless or actively harmful) stuff
Yes officer. This post over here.
No, seriously, why am I offended. This is offensive to me.
Probably because the screws can’t be used!
Just gonna have to 3d print a phone case with the corresponding threads, I guess.
Are you calling twitter mob?
Because that stupid proprietary connector is now illegal in the EU YAAAAY
this is the most comments I’ve seen on lemmy. now i know the community I’m in. God help me.
Leave a factually incorrect, unprompted whataboutism about socialism or communism in a thread criticizing capitalism and I bet you could rival this comment count.
There was a thread this week about Biden’s achievements and it got at least 600 comments haha.
Nice! I can definitely see how that would stir the pot. I’ve had a lot of good discussion on Lemmy, I really enjoy it.
I like it here too. It’s smaller, nicer than… That other, silly place.
same here please don’t get me wrong it’s been great
You mean radical right USSA president?
Anarchy in the UK!?
What, you an HDMI guy? Son, we charge our laptops with VGA cables
Op still uses VGA. And is offended. 😬
My second monitor (CRT) is using a VGA to HDMI adapter.
Not in this house!
I had to double check I wasn’t on Reddit lol. Glad to see it.
I came back to see how many people were truly offended by this like I was and…yeah. These are my people.
Can explain to someone with english skill issue?
A power plug, but the three-prong ones like we have in the UK. The two lower prongs would appear to be plugged into the phone, and the top prong would just hover uselessly above the phone.
Bonus points for following the shape of the plug properly and having the cable come out of the bottom of the wall wart, so the phone can never lat down flat while it’s charging.
This is evil. I love it.
Holy shit, man - who crapped in your doritos?
Yes, yes and hell yes.
That’s brilliant. Do you have
.stls available for that?An ethernet cable that’s actually wired for a serial port
looks at network hardware vendors
Sounds like someone accidentally used the wrong port a few times.
That’s what she said?
But there aren’t any screws!?
That’s a console cable. They’re actually useful.
That’s a valid use of Cat5 cable.
Lawful good: Please don’t use 8P8C for anything other than 10/100/1000BASE* compatible protocols, especially on network devices. It’s confusing.
Chaotic good: Please don’t use ethernet cable for anything other than ethernet compatible protocols, especially on ethernet devices.
Lawful evil: That’s a valid use of Cat5 cable.
Chaotic evil: Let’s talk about RS-485True neutral: Wires are just wires and standards are just standards. In a parallel dimensions, somewhere, cat5 is used for 8-phase delta mains power.
I’ve seen it
I’ve seen a few renditions of this one so far:
At first I thought it was great standard connector. It turns out to be non-standard garbage.
You have to buy a million dollar iPod to use it.
I would want an RJ45 charger.
Nice
Why are technical drawings so much cooler?
Because engieneering is so much cooler.
Fun fact: if you design in fusion 360, you can make technical drawings quite easily with only a couple clicks.
[Fact Check!] A YouTube video series says it takes 30 days to completely master. Did skillshare send you?
To completely master yeah maybe, but if you just want the cool drawings, it’ll automatically make them from your model (I meant that assuming you already use fusion).
Fun fact: FreeCAD is better
I wish
Why two different and incompatible options?
Or, more generally, why can’t I ever read some USB spec and get out with less questions than I had in the beginning?
Probably for the same reason why they decided to rename USB 3.0.
I guess they had a liquor cabinet in the room where they held their meeting
Because for some reason, the USBIF has been hit over and over again with the stupid stick ever since USB2 came out.
These are for niche needs. For most applications neither is necessary. If needed and space is constrained the single pin variant allows additional connectors to be packed together on a single PCB. The dual pin option doesn’t, it takes up space that could be used for additional connectors.
I se no advantage at all for the dual pin design.
It looks exactly like what I imagined by screw-lock USB connector, but the single pin seems to be a really inspired design somebody had and made the entire committee angry for some reason.
The single pin only resists force. Two pins resist torques being applied to the usb connector. The single pin does resist torque but it uses the connector potentially damaging the PCB.
Short version: looks good, functions bad
But why not make a dual screw design by adding one more screw to the bottom of the current single screw one? Would be more compact and allow them to be more cross compatible.
PCB are designed with things on top of them. Typically they are mounted with the bottom of the PCB at the bottom of a case. So following normal conventions there wouldn’t be a place for the bottom screw to go into something. Unless you used a bespoke case. It’s much easier to have the two screw design place the screws above the PCB.
It may seem like a minor change, but it costs substantial more in design time and effort. New folded steel cases and injection moulded cases would have to be developed. Designers would use a different port, or worse deploy their own two horizontal screw design. There would then be several two screw designs (metric/imperial/very close/very far etc).
Anyone with the niche need of the two screw vertical design would likely rotate the whole connector or use a flex cable to join the connector to the main board.
Because USB is pretty much neither universal or standardized, just the same shape and somewhat compatible
The single screw version looks wrong somehow.
I wish things actually used this, it looks really stable.
Well, you can buy them: https://www.coolgear.com/product/usb31-type-c-to-c-dual-screw-lock-cable
That’s cool, but I wouldn’t have anything to attach it to. It would be great if my laptop had those ports though.
You usually do not want connectors to be too stable.
The fact that it unplugs before any part breaking or pushing your devices away is almost always a feature, not a bug.
Coaxial for me
25pin serial cable and ain’t nobody at work gonna steal my phone charger no more.
Cant do it, the BNC connector is not large enough to house a USBc end, even the Apple one which is the smallest I have. I would have to enlarge the BNC to a near comical size. Now if we removed the moulded housing it could be done, but it would have to be made on a bare PCB/Cable/Connector to be the right size.
An N connector should be just big enough, if not, use a 7/16 DIN connector then.
N connector to SMA, and hardline to USB-C.
Jack or Plug? if plug, would you want it to look like its plugged in, so just the retention tab and back half are sticking out?
It would be epic if it is both.
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:6449087
not tested yet
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:6449087
I have not done a test print yet, but this might work. Requires a Apple USB-C cable because anything else is too big.
Side note, does anyone know some sort of cable sleeve similar to this that instead grabs onto the device and stabilizes the port?
As much as I like type-C, the ports on my laptop have worn down significantly and aren’t always stable
Depends on what you mean by stable.
It’s likely dust in the port. If you gently clean it out with a toothpick or other small flat instrument you will get it to seat better. If dust is the issue, you should see some lint at the bottom of the port.
Sorry for not being clear, I’m not talking about connection stability, I mean the type-c port (female) becomes flimsy over the years and doesn’t hold the connector (male) securely anymore
Neither are they. If there’s dust or fuzz down in there, it doesn’t physically seat correctly, and ends up being wobbly.
This isn’t usually the cause. If the cable isn’t inserting fully then yes it can be dust and that often helps the problem, but the retention mechanism itself wears out over time leading to the cable slipping out easily and depending on the design things can get wobbly. I work with electronics for a living and with laptops more often than not it’s the latter category with dust not being too common of an issue since they aren’t kept in pockets. Phones on the other hand it’s usually dust, but I don’t interact with many USB C phones old enough for wear to be an issue.
Have you tried a different cable? With usb c it should be the cable that becomes flimsy and not the port.
Personally I have the opinion that usb-c should be a connector for mobile devices only and there should be something with the size of a type a or b for stationary stuff. The size makes the connector too flimsy
Yes, but they typically require that the side on the laptop is also prepared for it. Look for example how the usb ports on toughbooks look. They have a screw next to them.
You can use some of that heat shrink wire wrap to create a stiff cable where you want and how big
A big stiff cable is exactly what we’re looking for.
I prefer laying something a bit softer, personally.
Like a full excavatory dispulsion of liquid?
Not quite as entertaining as that. Maybe a 3 or 4 on the Bristol scale.
USB-C has been really fragile for me. Cables tend to only last a couple of months on my phone. People say it is a robust connector type, so idk if my phone is defective and destroying them, or if people are being overly generous about the connector resilience.
This was my experience with micro usb, and everyone seemed to agree they were total shit. As for USB-C, I’ve never even heard of someone having trouble with the actual cord. Generally the issue is that there is lint or something in the charge port. I don’t think I’ve ever thrown out a USB-C cord, to my memory.
In short, check for lint, and if that’s not the issue then yeah it really might be your phone. Mind if I ask what kind of phone you have?
I’ve had a couple usb-C cords die, and a couple of outlet adapters. Always fun trying to troubleshoot what the issue is.
Pixel 7 Pro. It’s definitely not lint. I’ll try the cables with other devices after they stop working and they’re dead. I’ve resorted to buying the expensive cables and even those eventually wear out.
I’ve had issues with the cable on my pixel 6 pro not staying seated - so I plug the phone in and if there’s slight movement and it stops charging, very annoying… I also had the same issue with my pixel 5, so much so that I had to get it repaired. I don’t do anything unusual wear and tear wise (like working on a building site), and since the 5, I always make sure the port is debris free before plugging in.
It’s frustrating because I have an iPhone for work and the connection on that is reassuringly solid.
Yeah, the iPhone cable is nice. It’s just a simple male to female, not this double inception stuff that USB-C is. But USB-C is faster, and more universal. I guess the problem is probably my phone. I already had to get it replaced once because the port burned out. Great job Google! Nice flagship phone you’ve got there.
Do you often use your phone hand-held while it is charging? The devices should be able to handle it, of course, but it sounds like you’ve had a lot of issues!
Agreed on the Apple lightning connector though. I am happy to see USB-c finally becoming the standard, but it’s mechanically a nice connector.
I wouldn’t say “often”, but occasionally. I guess a few times per week for 10-20 minutes or so.
My question is on the cables. I learned way too quickly that the quality of the cables matters a ton with USB C.
I haven’t had any problems with USB C cables failing other than the one one of my kids chewed on
Are your kids rats?
Worse. They’re both under the age of 5
No, they’re obviously baby goats.
I’ve had mine for like 4 years at this point and they are still perfect. I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say you are either buying cheap shit or are abusive as fuck with your cables.
Your limb has snapped, and you are injured.
Neither of those things are true, but I think my phone port might be frying them. I already had to return 1 Pixel 7 Pro for a dead port that burned up a cable on its way out.
Have you tried using a different charger? What about your other devices? Do you have issues with them? I wonder if the charger is what is damaging them.
It might be the charger. It’s a 30w, 5amp charger from Costco.
I don’t really know why your cables would be falling so fast, but to be fair part of the design of USB C is that, inverting the design of USB A, the connector is on the cable side, in the hope that the cable should be the part that deteriorates first. That way fewer devices get trashed for having dodgy sockets.
Maybe they’re lonely and just want to talk to someone about it.
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Terrible ideas:
- Garden hose
- NEMA 10-50 - each “prong” could be a different connector
- CCS
- USB-A
- Quick-connect air coupler
The first one reminds me of this classic
CCS to USB-C?
How about a patch cable to female aux connector? Just leave it laying around somewhere visible in the office.
Garden hose
Make it look like an old Apple 30-pin.
That could actually be one of the more confusing ones.
Especially on an Android phone :-)
But one of those chonky third party ones with the buttons on the sides, and have a FireWire cable coming out of there too for that 2003 feel
Print USB-A sleeves with the logo on the wrong side. People will be so surprised and confused when they can’t plug the cable in on the first try!
…There’s a logo on one side?
Hah! I never noticed the logo thing, I always aim with the metal seam facing down. Rarely fails.
What about when it’s vertically oriented
Left
Up is still up. The circuit board is the frame of reference, not the floor of the room.
