The post in question
Ah yes, Lemmy, so popular with kids it competes with Roblox for the pervs attention
Whenever I go to the store, I see at least 4 or 5 kids begging their parents to let them have an account.
I kind of just assumed everyone on these boards was 3-6 years old. Are they not?
Only mentally.
Sexuality??? “Likes to hold hands/be married with girls and/or boys” is not “sexual” and little kids can quite easily get that.
Seriously, is a kid with straight married parents not allowed to know their parents are married/like each other??? Tf
I sometimes worry that the straight, cis folks aint right :/
These days, both the straights and the straits are not OK.
You are correct that I’m not right, but just for different reasons.
Speaking as a cishet, we mostly aren’t right but most of us are wrong in better ways 😉
Yeah, I’ve often thought we were a bit off. Ask someone why they are against gay people and they almost always find a way to be bothered by what’s going on in the bedroom. But if you start asking them about their heterosexual bedroom activities they clam up and seem offended that you asked. And they still don’t get why they are wrong
Mod posted a response: https://lemmy.world/post/52564578
I have recently received some feedback about including sexuality as a topic for dad jokes. Although it was not the most constructive of feedback, some points were made. Sex as a topic is not the same as sexuality, and I apologize for not making that distinction clearer. I was basing my moderating on what was being reported and sex being a topic as understood for children closer to puberty, although sexuality such as LGBTQ+ parents/partners/people can be understood much earlier. While I stand by still keeping actual sexual themes (anatomy, sex positions, etc.) as an off-limits topic for the community, sexuality seems reasonable to include.
This community is not static; I want to do my best to maintain a place that can grow with the community while staying true as a place for humor in a world that has plenty of unpleasant things. I am not a bot, and am indeed a person that is open to having respectful discussions.
Tell me what you think should and should not be included as “off limits topics.” Should profanity be allowed, or possibly only certain words? Are there other suggestions you have? I will try to look at the common themes from any feedback and apply them over the next two weeks or so.
As far as mod responses go, that’s pretty dang good. For as much as we complain about bad mods we should applaud the good.
Fully agree. It’s a great example of how to respond to criticism constructively. The Piefed developers should take notes, lol.
This person believes in abstinence
Also, did they unban the post? Or is this just damage control?
I posted a response in the thread 🙂
rare admission of guilt.
hopefully that community learns to read reports, and the actual contents before hitting the «Remove Post/Comment»Generally, I find communicating with the reported on gets better intersection and solidarity than outright deletion. (Good faith moderation vs Report->Remove)
Sex as a topic is not the same as sexuality
So much willful ignorance around this by people who just want to virtue signal to their peers.
That is a fantastic response. Bravo. Stuff like that is what keeps us from becoming another Reddit shit hole.
Scrolling through the community quickly, there were like 3 jokes mentioning a husband’s wife, one mentioning a car’s manual transmission stalling, and one that’s over a week old that includes the word "ass’ which is directly breaking the no-profanity rule, yet somehow the concept of a gay couple is too confusing for a 6 year old? Oh and also a joke about “Cherenkov radiation” which I am 1000% confident no 6 year old on earth has ever heard of.
PTB
Maybe people should be reporting those other posts mentioning heterosexual couples to make a point.
You know what they say: Alex and Philip don’t make Robert
Well now you’ve done it. You’re going to get removed for being racist.
Fair enough! Wish the mod was weighing in here at least then.
I’d tag them, but de-anonymizing (sp?) mods is against the rules of YPTB 🤷🏻
I hate so much when sections of Lemmy moderate as if they still have corporate masters to answer to and advertiser-friendliness to worry about.
On further discovery, that doesn’t seem to be the case with this particular decision but generally?
Oh really? I missed that rule, I thought it was just using admin powers to reveal them was the no no. There’s only one mod of that community.
There’s only one mod of that community.
Hence why I’d be able to know who to tag without being an admin myself 😁
I’m pretty sure that we’re not supposed to mention even the most guessable identity if it’s not in the modlog entry, though 🤷🏻
That’s wild when the first posting guideline is
Which mods/admins were being Power Tripping Bastards?
Seems like that’s a tricky path to walk when posting here.
@db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com Any chance we could get clarification on the naming of PTB mods here? @unruffled@anarchist.nexus
One of the posting guidelines is literally:
Which mods/admins were being Power Tripping Bastards?
So, if OP already figured it out, then I think it’s fine to mention. But I’m actually not 100% sure why there is a rule against deobfuscating the modlog in the first place. I’m typically for more transparency rather than less. I think @db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com would have written the original rule, so I’m sure he can explain it better than me :)
Maybe people should be reporting those other posts mentioning heterosexual couples to make a point.
Mods would just ban people for pointing out the posts or comments breaking rules rather than addressing the issues being reported
I was being a bit tongue-in-cheek with that comment honestly.
Lemmy.world not beating the allegations again.
Its the joys of how hard it is to convey sarcasm on the internet 😂.
Favorite removal reason from world is making too many reports so deleting instantly rather than locking
Mods have responded in other threads. Good response and taking a look at the rules.
Equating gay/bi people with sex and therefore inappropriate for children is a tactic of bigotry. The same argument was used to say that it’s wrong for Mr. Ratburn to get married on Arthur, despite the episode being completely innocuous, or for any of the lgbtq characters in Steven Universe to exist. It’s literally an argument to exclude queer people from society.
Same reason why showing gay relationships or drag on TV makes “christians” go nuts. They equate it to adult sexual behavior in order to silence it and keep it away from “family communities.”
Only american christians really. In the UK it really isn’t a problem.
The concept of “Dad” is too complex for children, and implies (at its core) the act of sex.
We should ban the concept of “Dad” from all forms that could be seen by children.
My kid knew about gay people from the day he was born. PTB for sure.
PTB?
Power Tripping Bastard :)
What does that mean? Most babies have a pretty limited understanding of the world. 😅
I’m queer and he has family members that are LGBT+. He’s known of our existence forever. He has seen his grandfathers kissing since his very start. He’s seen me dating other women. It’s just normal.
Babies can’t see any shapes at all for a while:
https://www.aao.org/eye-health/tips-prevention/baby-vision-development-first-year
I kind of get what you’re saying, but the idea that a newborn baby would even understand anything more than, “this person smells good and makes nice sounds” is probably a stretch. 😊
I was using exaggeration to make a point. You’re being pedantic.
That point is that gay and bi people are normal. My kid grew up with his mother as a queer woman. It’s normal and not something that needs to be gatekept for children.
Pedantry is great for influencing people and making new friends.
I mean, op didn’t say they were a square or a triangle so they should be good with their baby being able to see them.
I’m assuming they are gay and have a child.
Someone needs to tell that mod that dad jokes aren’t for the kids.
If your 5-year-old can’t understand someone being gay then you’re a shit parent.
It really depends on the kid. Some 5 year olds just don’t give a fuck about any of that relationship shit and IMO it’s not so important that they need to be sat down and told all about all the attraction options. I don’t just mean the alternate ones but also man and woman.
If they ask questions or show interest in the topic, I think they should be answered honestly, but the only essential information at that age IMO is about personal space, not touching people who don’t want to be touched (at all if that’s their desire but especially in the private areas), understanding that they are the ones in charge of deciding if someone else touching them is ok (though at that age, it would be more of a “you don’t have you let anyone see or touch there unless it’s an emergency like it got hurt”), and that anyone asking them to keep secrets from their parents without it involving presents or a happy surprise isn’t their friend.
That said, there’s nothing wrong with this joke. Either it will go over the kid’s head and they ignore it or it will make them curious and prompt those questions. If you respond to those questions with deflections and/or lies, then I’d agree with the shit parent accusation. Same thing applies to not wanting certain topics visible at all for fear that kids might ask questions about them. That cowardice isn’t doing their kids any favours.
You can be honest about what sex is without giving the necessary details for them to act it out.
I don’t just mean the alternate ones but also man and woman.
oh yeah I have an unmarried aunt and uncle and it took me way longer than I’d like to admit to realise they were a couple.
Ignoring that the avarage age of lemmy could be 25 up to 35 years
but sexuality not until closer to puberty
I’d say that a kid would understand sexuality better “look, they just love eachothers” vs “they are male but with a female body” or sum
Ignoring that the avarage age of lemmy could be 25 up to 35 years
I think it’s actually much higher.
This is admittedly purely anecdotal and your mileage may thus vary, but in my experience as an elder millennial, most people here are around my age or older 🤷🏻
Yeah but not all people, it’s an avarage so it will naturally be lower
If most people here are my age or older, it follows that the average must be younger? 🤔
A smaller or a too big number will throw off the avarage, that’s also why using the avarage to see how much a country population earn is bad since billionare and millionare people exist
So what you’re saying is that the median age here is close to my estimate, but there’s a handful of precocious toddlers throwing off the average? 😄
Yep
What’s everyone so upset about? Clearly, the 3-6 year-olds on Lemmy have been protected!
…from knowledge about the existence of gay and/or bi people.
How many 3-6 year olds could there possibly be using Lemmy??
3-6
And they’re a year old? Damn, they learned FAST
If I were you (which I am) I would know for sure it’s at least 2
Do we know what mod made this very homophobic decision, because I would like to know that they’ve been banned for this.
Another one of the bigots who think mentioning anything not straight is both sexual and political - PTB
Ptb. That the mod doesn’t understand the difference between romantic and sexual attraction says a lot about them as a person. It says even more that they expect the jokes to be understandable by a 5yo.
On the bright side, this is Lemmy! Anyone can make a new Dad Jokes community that doesn’t have that stupid rule.
PTB, obviously.
“Of course their gonna know what intercourse is by the time they hit fourth grade, they got the discovery channel, don’t they?”. In most situations like this, pre-internet, your older cousins would say “You’ll find out when you’re older”.
