Reddit says the beloved site is used for some “bad behavior.”

  • Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world
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    8 hours ago

    “These changes will strengthen Reddit’s foundation, ensure the platform is ready to support thriving communities for future generations, and preserve what makes Reddit uniquely human,” the blog says.

    Lol. Lmao even

    They talk about preserving their “foundation” after chasing away/banning their most seasoned mods and members. They assume they’ll be the site for “future generations” as their current users abandon them. They think they’re “uniquely human” as bots take over.

    Delusion at its finest.

    • joenforcer@midwest.social
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      4 hours ago

      Where do you think those users will go? LEMMY?

      The truth is, a vast majority of users don’t know or don’t care about old.reddit, and weren’t even aware of the exodus years ago due to the API changes.

      This whole “reddit bad” contingent on lemmy is the delusional group.

      Downvote away. I know what I said.

    • chunes@lemmy.world
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      8 hours ago

      They’re just saying whatever the shareholders want to hear. It’s so fucking stupid how we have structured our society

  • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 @pawb.social
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    11 hours ago

    Viewing a site without logging in is now considered “bad behaviour.”

    Viewing a site with a layout and style that doesn’t rape your eyeballs is now “bad behaviour.”

    Those are the only two fucking reasons to have ever used Old.Reddit.

  • eleitl@lemmy.zip
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    12 hours ago

    Yes, that will make me stop reading the only sub I still read there. That will get rid of my bad behaviour.

  • steelplatedmech@piefed.ca
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    18 hours ago

    If you want to rewrite your comments you should do it while you still have the chance with something like power delete suite, since it relies on old.reddit.

    Best method in the past was getting GDPR files and doing it with shreddit, but getting api keys is hard now.

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      8 hours ago

      Those tools don’t work. Reddit just restores the comments. Happened to me a dozen times.

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        It worked for me. Comments never came back even years later and checking old comment links with gdpr files.

        I think reddit has a limit on the amount of comments that can be viewed through your profile. So you won’t be able to delete everything in one go if you have thousands of comments.

        You’ll have to do one run rewriting and then after deleting the comments it can. Then wait and do it a few days or a week later when the profiles repopulates it with the older batch of comments that weren’t available before.

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          Worked for me too. I remember lots of complaints about those tools not working during the api drama, some including clashes with devs of a couple similar tools/extensions having to defend their tool.

          Was curious enough that I followed up on a bunch of my own comments and spot checked a bunch of random ones from those threads months later. Didn’t find any that were deleted then restored. Literally not one.

          Still run into gibberish comments on search results today, so clearly those were never restored.

          It really seems more likely that the “reddit restores comments” push was either the comments never got deleted (user error, tool being overwhelmed, etc.) or bad faith actors trying to keep people from nuking their shit.

    • AnalogAllamma@lemmy.world
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      21 hours ago

      Or whatever came… For me it was getting banned for commenting “Rothschilds” and nothing else, on a video news report Post about a majority Jewish city council voting to defund public schools in the majority black neighborhoods. At one point, the camera zoomed in on a nameplate of one of the city council members… Rothschilds.

      I saw it and posted a reply, seemingly without thinking… “Rothschilds”.

      In seconds I was banned, for hate speech

    • moakley@lemmy.world
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      That’s a weird take. If they fuck up old reddit much more I’ll just stop using reddit. Or I could stop using it preemptively. There’s nothing coming. It won’t affect me much.

      • Zedd_Prophecy@lemmy.world
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        8 hours ago

        I deleted my account and 13 years of posts manually over a time and still have the Login cookie for the old account in the browser. You can still view old reddit with it. That said the content is so bad there it’s generally not worth it.

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      21 hours ago

      I still use Reddit as it still provides a bunch of things the FV doesn’t at this time, but at the same time I welcome another wave of refugees when the evil empire pulls their next major boner.

      That said, I’m not sure we’re quite ready for them in terms of specific communities having healthy active readerships and active mods. Maybe they can help revive what’s become a load of dormant c/'s across the FV, I don’t know.

  • BrikoX@lemmy.zipOPM
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    I think if they manage to fuck up old.reddit.com that would have a bigger impact on people looking for alternatives than the API changes had as that mostly affected posters.

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        4 hours ago

        I like to read all the comments in one page load. No clicking tens of times to load all the nested comments

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        4 hours ago

        Easily blocked ads, no account required. No profile pictures. No “modern” UI that’s slow and takes up huge chunks of whitespace for no reason. No stupid features like chat taking up space. No related posts taking up space in the comments. Also old.reddit supports custom CSS so every subreddit can have their own custom theme. Remove everything unwanted from the new site and app and you’re basically left with old.reddi5

      • chunes@lemmy.world
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        It’s the only way to actually use the website in a reasonable manner.

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        13 hours ago

        Before phones and mobile apps became the norm, people browsed reddit on a desktop browser, and old.reddit is formatted to work with that type of view. No-frills, more efficient use of screen real estate, and everything is easy to reach. It’s the people who used reddit when it was like that who are loyal to it.

        Nowadays, most reddit users probably don’t even know that it’s a website, and they only know it as an app on their phone. And the new reddit interface is optimized for mobile, which is terrible and inefficient when browsing on a desktop.

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          13 hours ago

          I used reddit back then and mostly on the firefox. Broswrr and I like the new ui too

          Maybe I am different

          I think reddit problem is not ui. It is many many other shit.

      • steelplatedmech@piefed.ca
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        15 hours ago

        Old.reddit UI fills the entire width of the screen, and default view is compact. You see more of the feed at a glance without having to scroll as often. When it comes to comments more of it is displayed when it comes to nested comments before clicking.

        New reddit takes up a lot of space. And clutters up the side with stuff like related posts when you check the comment section.

        Another big one is reddit enhancement suite which lets you tag and block things only works on old.reddit.

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        It was the dumber, non Web 2.0 version of the site. It didn’t have any of the new UI’s user activity data harvesting apparatus or progressive loading features or fake posts (ads) or Adblock mitigation and so forth. It looked like a 2000s website but anyone who used Reddit in that era wasn’t going to care. Redlib is better if you need to check something on Reddit.

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    19 hours ago

    I dont think many old users are still on the platform. Look at thr platform growth and its eclipsed the old.reddit years. They will lose a few million but theyve got hundreds of millions using the new ui

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      afaik some important mod tools are only available on old reddit, so if old goes, so will many of the remaining subreddit mods who haven’t left after the API shutdown

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      They will lose a few million but theyve got hundreds of millions using the new ui

      even just thousands of users joining Lemmy/Mbin/PieFed would do a lot of good for us

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      There’s the proposed theory of 90% of the community are just lurkers, 9% contribute occasionally, and 1% contribute most of the content.

      Might not seem like it doesn’t matter, but depends on who are the ones submitting most of the material to the site than lurkers.

      • Majestic@lemmy.ml
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        Doesn’t matter. They’ve been replacing the content people with repost bots and AI bots for years and most people won’t notice if half those power posters leave as a result. Many of the power posters would stay on Reddit anyways short of being charged $10/post simply for the feeling of being important which they derive from being influential.

        Thats not even getting into how the US Air Force has been astroturfing Reddit for over a decade with most active city Eglin Air Force base and would therefore put paid effort in to keep it afloat and their psyops reaching minds. Heck tons of organic posters leaving gives them a chance to seize mod positions and make trustworthy names for accounts under their control.

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          I stayed away from the general popular subreddits that tend to populate /r/all preferring to stick to either hobbyist and tech related subs. I haven’t noticed much change when it comes to places like emulators or roms for example mainly going there to check the wiki and when myrient went down people backing it up and making Minerva.

          So I guess if it is the general trash subs that the twitter crowd congregates along with news, the bots and stuff might be more apparent with it being about karma, trying to go viral, and manipulate what users see. But, the more resource oriented ones like Linux or buildapc still seem to be less affected with people there just trying to help out.

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      I think you’re right but I also have to imagine the old. users are disproportionately contributing quality parts and replies to the niche communities that make reddit “sticky”.

      I’m ok if reddit keeps the users that want an endless feed of memes and low effort content.

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      16 hours ago

      I only go there to ask in Japan-related subs about tax/business/legal questions and try to help others (though I’ve mostly stopped). Several of us tried to get the people to move but they won’t. Without the knowledge that some of the people (some of whom do related legal/accounting work for a living and others with decades of experience), there’s no point.

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    22 hours ago

    This confirms the reason they haven’t shuttered it already is because they still rely on it for their codebase