cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/45966551
Good grief, has she not seen all the advances in medical technology in the last 50 years? Life saving technology? How can someone with such high qualifications be this stupid?
And on a side note, she also says ‘AI is for everyone’. if AI is for everyone, why doesn’t she champion for companies to stop putting AI technologies up behind paywalls and subscriptions? 🤔
She’s selling to a room full of investors and buyers lol, what do you expect?
If AI weren’t around, they would have said the same thing for whatever biggest new feature they were presenting like FSR or Nvidia with ray tracing.
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How can someone with such high qualifications be this stupid?
When I first started in healthcare, I thought this all the damn time. You go in expecting doctors to be all around better/smarter people than the rest of us. Like, they made it through medical school, right? Surely they can think critically about things like politics, or apply their medical knowledge to basic practices like hygiene… or at least figure out how to drive around that one corner of the parking garage without risking a 3-car pile up.
Nope, nope, and fuckin NOPE!
Most of them are genuinely brilliant in the scope of their own specialty, but outside of that very specific bubble, they’re the same dumbass monkeys as the rest of us.
Did she forget the entire computer revolution her company basically fomented??
Must’ve. Plus all the other non-AI advancements in the last 50 years that have changed, improved and saved people’s lives in various ways
AI is NOT better than the amount that life expectancy raised around the world since 1975…
Me thinks the woman has too much AI on the brain to think of such things as these
People seem to forget she is the cousin of Captain Shiny Whaleskin Jacket. The shit apple doesn’t fall far from the shit tree.
I’m new to the hating AI community, though my loathing of AI is very much peak, and IDK what to put into google to make head or tail of this, so could you elaborate a little more plz?
She is the cousin of Nvidias CEO Jensen Huang.
Coincidence? I think not!
Relevant info provided. Welcome to the club! https://www.tomshardware.com/news/jensen-huang-and-lisa-su-family-tree-shows-how-closely-they-are-related
Many thanks!
Counterpoint: mRNA vaccines allow us to create immunities to some of the most virulent diseases imaginable.
Exactly the point I made to someone else who tried to refute my grievance with this quote. Even they admitted the mRNA was massively important
Important for her profit if/when it takes off.
Good point (for her)
IDK what medical technology post-1976 have been transformative the way computers have been. Yes of course some people have survived serious injuries or illnesses that might have been fatal before, but the average person isn’t affected that much. I’d put the internet at #1 since computers today are basically enhanced versions of ones from 1976. Solar power might be another one (massive deployments now, and it’s the cheapest way to generate new electricity). AI shouldn’t be sneezed at though. It may turn out to be like global warming, affecting almost everyone in bad ways rather than good.
You said computers in the general, but the critique was about current general today I technologies and not the computing revolution.
Yes, I understand that, I’m just saying that the average person is more affected by computers and the internet than by million dollar gene therapy treatments.
It’s too early to tell the long term effect of AI but I think it’s not good. It could be the most important technology of 2020-2070 in the same way that the nuclear bomb was perhaps the most important technology of 1945-1995. Even though it fortunately didn’t get dropped on anyone else after 1945, it had a bad effect on everyone, the whole cold war revolved around it, etc.
The article is about AI specifically, not computers and the internet in general.
Lisa Su: AI is the #1 most important technology of the past 50 years.
You: no, medical advances are #1
Me: Hmm, I’d put the internet ahead of medical advances. It’s too early to tell with AI. Lisa Su might end up being right, but in a bad way.
Seems like a reasonable course of discussion.
First off, the person who posted the article and commented is different than the first person who replied to your comment and I am a third user.
Second, the poster said advancements in medical technology is more important than AI. Medical technology includes all kinds of things like diagnostic tools, massive advancements in vaccines, the internet for sharing data, and all kinds of things that affect everyone. It was one example of something far more important than AI.
Oh ok I didn’t follow the attributions. Still, it’s hard to say Lisa Su is wrong, at least from a future perspective. Today, if AI (let’s say post-2023 for the modern sense of AI) disappeared, we’d be rid of some AI slop but not all that much else would change. If we ask the same question in 2060, what answer do we get? IDK. If she said past 20 years instead of past 50, she’d probably be right. Amazon in 2006 was crushing local retail more or less the same way as now.
No I don’t believe that sharing data by internet is a medical technology advance. MRNA vaccines are a real advance, but without them, we’d still have attenuated-virus vaccines like the Johnson & Johnson Covid vaccine. MRI was first developed in the 1970s, putting it in the 50 year window but not by much. Gene therapy is new but ultra specialized. There have been huge advances in cancer treatment, probably more important. I would say psychiatry and mental health understanding have gotten a lot better in the past 50 years and that’s important, but it’s hard to call that a technological advance per se.
That’s a fair point. If only she meant AI as a negative important thing, but unfortunately she is very clearly framing it as a positive important thing, which we know it most certainly isn’t
If you ask who the most important person of the 1940s was (in terms of having the biggest effect on the world, not about being good or bad), it’s quite reasonable to answer “Hitler”. Time Magazine declared Hitler to be “Man of the year” in 1938 for basically that reason, i.e. measuring impact rather than virtue. There was a lot of reader pushback though. Maybe they didn’t use the wisest of criteria for that award.
Right now, AI chips are making a ton of profit for AMD, so Lisa Su’s viewpoint is understandably biased.
It’s not so much that she’s wrong, but that she’s promoting it as a positive thing. I.e. purely a positive thing, without pointing out the massive scale of issues and destruction (I.e. environmental) that AI is gonna cause. It’s as if Oppenheimer tried to say ‘this marvellous invention will help us win the war’ without focussing on the massive loss of life: majorly important tech, but with dire implications.
Well not just medical tech: I would argue that other fantastic tech has revolutionised the world in the last 50 years.
To answer your question, on the medical advances in the last 50 years include the invention of or enhancement of:
-MRI scans -Vaccines such as mRNA and Covid-19 -Gene-editing techniques -surgical robotics And more
Vaccine advances have definitely been important, good call. The other stuff mentioned is technologically advanced but affects relatively few people. Most of us haven’t needed MRI scans, robotic surgery, etc. I’ve had a few conventional X-rays but never an MRI.
I’ve sometimes thought about this question (usually with the timeframe 20 years rather than 50) because of the extreme cost of health care in the US. Most of us can stay healthy without the latest tech interventions.
Thank you :)
You’re right, that technology does affect relatively few people, but even one life saved is still a life saved
