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    It’s time the EU roll out the bazooka. Kick out American firms like McDonalds, Accenture, Tesla and other plagues upon the land.

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        Of the firms listed, only Tesla has any patents worth confiscating.

        I’d play it differently and nationalize any patents needed to maintain the existing products once the firms that built them are ejected. I’d also make it clear that breaking DRM in order to maintain such products is penalty-free (as it should be for all products, really).

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          IP applies to more than just patents, it also includes things like branding. Imagine how much you could piss of McDonald’s if every Tom, Dick, and Clancy can open their own without giving a penny to the corporation.

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        Love the addition of seizing their IP. But it’s not enough as long our money keeps flowing across the pond.

        Seize the means of extraction

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    Tuesday is only three nights away

    But please go on, do it, make the Americans pay. Nothing as bad for business as a buyer that threatens again and again, changes his mind on every whim and backs out. No one needs shit like that, it’s just not worth it.

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      It is indeed a tax on Americans, but there is far more nuance to the scheme, and Democrats have been implementing policies to achieve the same, just not so publicized. A post-Trump Democratic leader won´t reverse most of Trump Policies and trade restrictions. Think of Iran-Obama agreement (JCPOA) =, Obama never intended it to be pursue, Then Trump cancelled, then Biden never instituted it back and his administration even told Europeans stop finding a way to bypass US bans on Iran… I really see Europeans really see how the US operates. Again, the intention here is to use this against EU for leverage in what US elite really cares about, US tech and military supremacy in Europe (that, of course, it is not only for sales, but pure control of EU intelligence apparatus and EU data (EU Data Privacy Laws: GDPR is just laughable for any data hosted in services like AWS, like anyone is monitoring encrypted data flowing back and forward across the Atlantic. Also, a portion of European export companies will simply go bankrupt, and what is worse, investment in Europe will dry up since US is a safer bet than a market that gets hit constantly by the US at will.

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        Sure, tariffs are a thing. And navigating things like international trade agreements is a thing that indeed requires nuance and intelligence and being artful, not someone like Donvict announcing it on a ridiculous “social media” outlet, based on late-night vibes he gets.

        Also, until Donvict came along, the supposed stance of “principled conservatives” (yeah, lol) was to be against protectionism. The fact that they are mum or even supportive of tariffs now demonstrates yet another example of a plank of “conservatism” that they never really cared about.

        Other than the tax cuts, handouts to corporations and the 1% of the 1%, racism, and the tribalism of saying one is a conservative, I think the era of Donvict has demonstrated that there really isn’t anything else to this supposed ideology, because I think they’ve violated every single plank.

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        “since US is a safer bet”

        How is the US a safer bet, when you have an Olympic level erratic person running the country like it’s one of His casinos?

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        I give it 60 years. Because here we are again, hitler level of hate. And the whole world is just watching since it’s also happening in some manner in their own towns.

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    That shit is going to backfire big time on america. I feel bad for the citizens. Definitely one of the dangers of democracy is that amoral scoundrels can be voted in.

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    I lived in the US for many, many years. I had acquired and priced what made me become and its people, from ALL political backgrounds. But for a decade now I have warned Europeans that excess reliance on the US political class is poison for Europe (and the world, really). I think many politicians in Europe have realized this in the last two years too, but are just trying to weather it out until Trump is out of office. Not so, the political aim of the US elite is to drain its allies dry as their contest with China persists. The political difference lies in the methodology, not the final objective. Trump does it abruptly, while many Republicans want to do it more subtly. Democrats, and sorry, most of the cheered progressive Democrats fall in here too, just want to milk the cash-cow a bit longer, but their aim is also to drain allies, though cleverly, trying not to antagonize them in the process.

    The future of Europe is not to compete directly against the US or China, that is not possible, but to try to be the Switzerland of the world: a neutral economic area where US, Chinese or Brazilian capital is safe, where researchers from Russia, China, Taiwan or Singapore feel safe and wanted, where there are no discriminatory bans and the rule of law is supreme and predictably independent. The leaders of the EU, as good obedient pro-US leaders they are, are steering the EU in the exact opposite direction, leaving no third player in a world dominated by the US and China as the only choices.

    I remember how leaders like Von der Leyen were chosen in secretive rooms (unlike previous EU leaders), and the Parliament just mindlessly rubber-stamps whatever is presented to them. These people are vetted in US embassies and European countries and intelligence agencies should, for one, work for their countries exposing the scheme.

    We, the people, both in Europe and the US, should stop the infighting, left vs right, and reframe it as status quo vs awakening political candidates, and give people a feel again of a reason to vote. The racist right in Europe grows because it offers an alternative. Let’s strip the racism and hatred from those parties and grab back their urgent demand for change that society is calling for and the masses will follow. I still have to come across a single party that does that.