For me it’s gotta be Goncharov
Why are half the replies in this thread about film adaptations? Are you guys illiterate or bots?
Why not both?
Call me crazy for this, but as much as I liked the book, I really like the original animated Animal Farm, a little more than the book. Definitely takes some good parts, like taking the sheep aside to force them to practice their “2 legs good” thing and a few other things. Like the whole thing of them using a gun ( possibly a shotgun IIRC ) as part of a memorial tradition where they fire it for those who died in part of the revolution fights. But still pretty good.
Though, speaking of George Orwell, I have a minor gripe with the original black and white 1984 adaptation. It’s a very minor thing, but I don’t like how for the journal the main character writes in cursive when the book states his writing is kinda blocky and childish, IIRC. Cannot say much more since I didn’t finish that book.
Inuyasha.
The show is basically just taking the manga scene for scene and animating it, while adding more adventures.
Assuming anime/manga counts: Frieren
The manga is really good, don’t get me wrong but the anime turned single page combats into all out super well animated fights with good music and great direction.
Anime definitely counts
The Expanse
OK, the books are pretty good in themselves but the first few seasons of the show are amazing in storytelling, accuracy wrt their source and adding color through visuals, casting, voices/accents/dialogs… And Thomas Jane is perfect in his role of noir fanboy but also real detective.
edit: just want to make clear that I’m not saying that the books are bad or even worse than the show! I enjoyed both immensely. But rarely is a good book paired with a good show.
Also the supreme elevation of Camina Drummer. TV Drummer is the good shit and Cara Gee is fantastic.
But the show is also worse because of the pressure cancellation. They crammed in as much Laconia as they could and it’s not bad, but it does feel rushed and incomplete.
I didn’t see any Laconia?
They did Strange Dogs as one episode in the final season, and iirc very very briefly introduce Duarte, though I may be misremembering that.
The show can see the future, which helps the early seasons a lot. Knowing what happens in the later books allows them to bring stuff forward. A great example of this is in the pilot when Avasarala is torturing a Belter and questioning him about stolen stealth tech. This is a character that doesn’t even appear in the first book and it is setting things up that don’t become important until book/season 4/5.
The authors being active writers on the show and senior producers on the later seasons also helps. They aren’t in charge, which means people with TV experience make the show work, but they keep the voice consistent. Regardless of who is credited as writer on an episode, nearly all Amos stuff in the first two seasons is written by one of the authors so that his mentality would be consistent. Throughout the whole run of the show, pretty much all the formal speeches are written by the other author.
The last thing that really helps them is the drive to be faithful to the story of the source without being slave to it. This leads to many small changes that slot actors they already have into story beats, giving the viewer more connection to what they see. Drummer, for example, is a tiny character in the books but the actress was great so they kept slotting her in instead of having a different Belter for everything. She even erased the existence of a main POV character and took on that role, outlived his role and just kept going. That then leaves his character design available, so he ends up being a major character in season 5, a completely different book.
We can thank Game of Thrones for a lot of that. One of the authors worked for GRRM for a while and was involved in his side of the early seasons of GOT. Even early on when it was well received, GRRM was getting frustrated by the changes the show was making without regard to knock-on effects. When selling the TV rights for Expanse, they fought to be in the room for both writing and production so that they could have a say when decisions were being made as opposed to just being asked for feedback after the fact.
The authors being active writers on the show and senior producers on the later seasons also helps.
Oh, I did not know that. Every movie/show I know where that is the case is a better adaptation and usually quite good.
I like the jurassic park movie more than the book.
The new Dune. Especially the first movie was such a good experience. The first book was a cool read, but the movie made a few changes that felt just right, e.g. the way darker Harkonnen theme.
The following books are just disappointing really.
This must be some kind of ragebait.
Why?
How many Dune books have you read? I don’t want to spoil something.
Dune, Dune Messiah and Children of Dune. After that, I lost interest, so go on and spoiler me.
If you’ve read those 3 then do yourself a favour and read God Emperor of Dune because it really sets everything that happened so far and later on into much grander perspective. Later books are optional since they don’t really bring that much to the table.
Book 4 perspective makes changes that movies made to the source material seem amateurish because they objectively suck no matter where you come from. Whatever happened with Chani at the end of Dune Part 2 was a low point because conflict due to lack of communication is the laziest thing writers can do and ultimately boring. I also disliked how conflict with other noble houses at the end was hand waved away by Gourney radioing into space. Having those 2 changes at the literal end of the movie leaves a sour taste without anything to help the situation.
There are also incomprehensible changes like skipping Paul’s integration into Fremen society, including taking wife and children of Jamis or having a kid of his own. It makes Fremen into 2D sand people caricature. Having Stilgar become some intelectually challenged country bumpkin is another change in the same vein.
I loved Dune Part 1 because it was faithful to the source while remaining accessible and beautiful. In Part 2 I felt that Villeneuve betrayed original vision and made a movie that would sell well rather than have cohesion to the story being told. At times it felt like Villeneuve made a Dune movie for people who hate Dune.
Which community do you think this is? Did you read the thread title?
I have seen dune on TV. So… What’s your point?
That’s not what a TV adaptation is…
The boys. I found the TV show pretty decent, not great but decent, and the ending was great in comparison to the comics.
I have personally only seen people complaining about the ending. But regardless, I would generally agree.
Yeah same, I laughed with despair at the comics ending though so the TV ending being just ok was excellent by comparison.
MASH
Most of the MCU offerings are way better than the comics they’re based off. I remember checking out Marvel comics after infinity war came out and my biggest impression is that most of them really aren’t worth reading.
Same for their TV shows. Loki and X-Men '97 are pretty good.
This one feels a little unfair since you’re comparing decades of history across dozens of characters, with so many peaks and valleys.
I considered bringing up Batman The Animated Series myself, since I agree with many fans that it’s possibly the best encapsulation of that character overall. But I still feel like the very best Batman comics, like Dark Knight Returns, beat it out as self-contained stories. Also there are side characters like Catwoman who definitely have better representations in the comics, because there they’ve had entire series devoted to fleshing them out.
On the Marvel side, I’d take Brian Micheal Bendis’ run on Ultimate Spider-Man over any film, but that benefits from being a full decade worth of monthly tales with a single extremely strong creative voice. Hard for a two hour movie to beat that.
Jaws. The characters in the book are very unlikeable, and the movie’s tone is much different helped in large part by John Williams’ amazing soundtrack.
Westworld
What book (series) is that? Or is it a comic? My web searching is failing me.
Oh hell very good point. It is based on the Crichton movie.
Aw, shucks. Was kinda hoping there was as a book series to dive into 😄
Dexter.
Read the first two books, then started on the show. Quit after a few episodes.
Surprised I’m the just to mention The Shining.
Also 2001 A Space Odyssey, although those were developed in tandem.
