For All Mankind season 5 delivers one of the most compelling and tense seasons of the show to date as conflicts heat up and power hangs in the balance
As someone watching whenever my SO decides to put it on - it feels like they’re running out of believable plot points
Also their attention to physics/detail seems to be slipping. Minor spoiler but
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the gravity on
EuropaTitan is less than the moon, it shouldn’t be hard to climb a cliff when you weigh2025 lbs.It’s Titan, not Europa, and it’s very close to the gravity on the Moon (about 85% of the Moons’s gravity or a seventh of Earth’s gravity compared to a sixth on the Moon). Also don’t forget they’re wearing heavy clunky suits.
The real problem with Titan is that it has a thick atmosphere at -180 C°, with winds and liquid methane rains. It’s gotta be a lot harder for the suits to keep the heat inside compared to vacuum of space which naturally provides insulation (I haven’t actually watched the show so IDK if they address this).
They do not meaningfully address anything about Titan. Just outside air bad and climbing hard for some reason.
Also they’ve been at 0g for quite a while before reaching Titan.
If that so heavily crippled their strength that they can no longer lift 15% of their body weight, those plot convenient artificial gravity magnetic boots that somehow make everything heavier on the ship would have been a bitch to wear walking out of that airlock.
I am nearly down with S5. The first few seasons were Peak IMO. The whole battle the moon and base building on the moon were the best. The retro vibes were epic before it got modern.
Some shows have “jump the shark.” Other shows have “fuck your dead son’s best friend.”
I feel like every season tries something a little bit new on the premise of the space race. I also feel like there is too much show for how much I enjoy every season. The characters are oddly flat, and their dialogue is cringe. Also they do some things that are just utterly fucked up. One character fucks her husband’s best friend’s child (who was also best friends with her dead son growing up together).
The space stuff can be dramatic and fun and all of it is visually well made, but I am increasingly finding that the fluff between the truly space sequences are less and less worth it
Maybe this is just me, but I couldn’t get past the first couple of episodes. The idea of a NASA series that isn’t hopeful and full of characters trying to solve science problems to help their fellow man, it’s just goes against the very idea of NASA for me. From the first episode, it’s just a bunch of unprofessional in-fighting from an organization that is famously technical and professional.
Sure, we’ve seen some amount of in-fighting with astronauts vs. doctors or bureaucrats, from movies like Apollo 13 or The Martian. But it was a minority of the plot, and ultimately, even the “bad guys” had the best interest of the organization in mind, just from a less-personal POV.
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Just finished season four…
It’s been sixty years and they can still only find five characters to be important to the plot. How is that possible? Ed, Dani, Margo, Aleida… I guess it’s only four people.
I love the concept of this show, but they’re stretching credulity with the cast. I wish they’d push prior season characters to the background and let new folks shine
barely any of those people are still relevant in season 5 fwiw.
How about Dev?
he’s just convenient money. He needs Karen, Aleida or Ed to accomplish anything
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After the death of a major character, the rest of the season went terribly dull. I gave up about halfway through it.
there’s also very little science or space plot anymore. it’s all politics and fighting. Felt like the sojourner mission was an afterthought.
It’s leading up to become a non-canonical prequel to the Expanse, although even for that it seems a little too sped up. I suppose the Titan stuff will have some impact in the next season.
I found the latter half of the season to be better.
Yeah, especially the Mars stuff in the last few episodes. Basically leading up to an independent Mars.
Opposite view.
Season 1 is the only one worth watching.
It’s an interesting turn, but earlier seasons are hard to beat. Don’t really agree here.
I haven’t gotten into the season yet but I figured we needed more Piefed threads on this show.
Keep hearing mixed reviews of this show. Tried to watch it 2-3 times but for one reason or another I can never bring myself to watch more than the first episode.
It’s engaging, but slow. I’ve watched the first two seasons.
So far, it’s a bit hollow. Kind of thought provoking in the Monster of the week way.
Sort of like they had something, but either didn’t know what to do with it or couldn’t for some reason.
Idk feels more like content than a show if that makes sense. It’s real beautiful and there’s interesting things happening, but why.
Idk
Oh it’s one of those single episode adventure shows? I thought it was a continuous story.
It’s very much a continuous story
I still haven’t started season 5 yet but I’m excited
They stopped caring about realistic plotlines a while ago… I think I’m somewhere in the middle of S4 at the moment and don’t really feel the need to finish it.
I just finished watching ep 3, and I’m like…why am I watching the show’s finale? It’s probably one of the best episodes I’ve seen, and would be the perfect ending to the series, but it’s right at the start of the season.
This series should have ended in season 3.
I tried watching it, but the overly macho american BS put me right of in the first 15 mins. Does it get better or the tone stays the same?
It absolutely changes. The macho stuff lasts maybe 1-2 episodes, but after that it becomes clear that all the macho guys are damaged. By season two, the women are running the agency and pushing the series forwards, and the macho men are kind of close to the villains insofar as they unintentionally self-sabotage themselves. By season 4, the only successful men on the show are gay. The macho men are all dead, except maybe one that the writers keep to prove how bad he is, and to provide plot tension.
Partway through season 4 is as far as I got, but if you’re big into feminism and space, you’ll probably enjoy it even as the plot diverges from “Apollo-13” to science fiction.
I don’t know if that’s the kind of show you’re looking for, but I find it funny for someone to watch only the beginning and label it too macho when the rest of the show clearly hates the macho man stereotype, lol.
Thanks for the detailed response. That makes sense now. Haha. I think my reaction was mostly coz I was after a distraction from real life and those 15 mins didn’t help. 😅
I think the macho behavior is in response to losing the moon race. The fighter pilot era of space exploration was and is still real… but it has to evolve to become more science driven over time
The machismo is deconstructed, but the American chauvinism is real - they can’t even stick to the premise of the USSR/Soviets being a more credible antagonist to drive the space race forward. They give the US loads of tech upgrades from the space race, but the USSR does not get the same upgrades despite doing the same thing.
The worldbuilding aspects are also kind of weak, with weird Final Destination-esque setpieces, and implausible political-economic just-so-stories to get main characters where the story wants them to be.
All in all, I found it unbearably shallow.
The first episodes of Star City have just been released, AFAIK it’s a spin-off that is supposed to show stuff from the soviet side. Haven’t watched it yet though, so I can’t say much about it.
