Diesel prices are through the roof (2.3€/L) but my backup fuel storage is ripe for rotation. Hopefully the prices have gone down a bit once I finish the last canister.
I always struggled with these 30L canisters and only strained my back and made a mess trying to pour it manually. This 14€ pump sure makes thing easier.
I bought that exact pump on Amazon for use as a water pump. It was terrible and leaked everywhere and I was terrified when I realized gas was the intended use!
Do you have e a 2 car household? Does one person have a short commute? Find the cheapest, oldest EV possible and slash your costs.
- A $3000 nissan leaf can have 80 miles of range. That’s fine if that person only commutes 20 miles a day.
- you don’t need to worry about road trips. You have the other car for that.
- insurance is lower. Maintenance is lower. No more trips to gas station.
- with less that 30 miles of driving a day, you don’t need electrical changes. Just plug the car into a normal household outlet.
This is my only vehicle. I’m one of the few people who actually uses a truck to do what it’s meant for. A small EV wont suffice. I could get an EV van but I like 4x4 pickup better.
There are some options coming out that look good. Telo has a truck with footprint of a mini, but with an actual normal size truck bed. Slate is a no frills truck that is targeting a normal price point. Hope one of those can fit your needs.
I kinda hope the Telo doesn’t get DOT approval given the complete lack of crumple zones. It’s worse than that car Steve Urkel had where the front was the door.
The Slate I’ve been looking closely at, and honestly I think it’s dead in the water. 2WD only, single cab only, 5 foot bed, 1000 pound towing capacity, 150 mile stated range. By the time you’ve done things like added a center console and a wrap in lieu of paint you’re about at the price of a Maverick. In SUV mode, you’ve now got a 2WD 2 door 5 seater. Nobody sells anything like that because nobody buys anything like that. It’ll do the job of a compact sedan, but larger, heavier and less aerodynamic.
- they’re going to crash test the telo. Presumably they didn’t stake millions on a car with a fatal flaw
- don’t underestimate a cheap EV. Or a cheap car in general. All the makers have left the low end.
I think it is going to be cheap, but not that inexpensive for what you get.
how do you have a footprint of a mini, with a bed the size of a truck when the mini can essentially fit into the bed of a truck.
also, that’s future talk that doesn’t help now for some that needs the space to I assume work and survive
makes sense now lol
Typical US truck beds are remarkably small.
I recommend looking up some videos about the vehicle. I enjoyed the one from Aging Wheels (on YouTube), but there are countless others. Definitely an interesting project, assuming it can make it past the prototype stage.
Imagine if an Avalanche knocked up a kei car.
I use a battery pump too, but have a manual in my trunk for backup. Never had any luck pouring a gas can–at least not since the 90s. The new fancy spouts make things worse! Plus those large cans are a bit heavy and awkward, especially when you have a wrist or back injury.
Since the mid-2000s I always keep a long funnel with a big cup with my cans, for exactly this reason - the new spouts suck.
Same. I found a funnel that fits perfectly in a plastic cup keep a couple rags in, and the cup is tied to my small can.
Got tired of spilling gas on my fingers.
I might need to make myself a little pump, since I already have everything I need and a 3d printer…
Surprised nobody has explained to you how a siphon works yet. You only need to pump it to get it started, then gravity does the rest. You’ll save the battery that way! Just make sure the can is higher than the outlet of the siphon.
I do know how siphon works. I just don’t have any good platform high enough to lift the canister onto.
What about … the truck?
But I understand. Siphons can be messy; I have a self starter and everything and sometimes just prefer to dump it manually.
It has a camper shell on it. Otherwise I could just put the canister on the bed.
gotcha. Pump sure is handy then. It’s just less fucking around.
I’m one of the few people who actually uses a truck to do what it’s meant for. A small EV wont suffice.
A camper shell is what pickups are meant for? Didn’t know that.
Camper shell is an accessory - not a purpose.
I transport stuff with it. It’s my work truck.
I have a 7 foot hose with a little hand-operated ball pump for this. Stupid simple mechanics so I never have to worry about it breaking, and no battery to ever worry about being dead
This! I was talking about fuel pumps with somebody yesterday. There seems to be two methods of pumps:
- simple rotary blade, most common. cheap and can be fast. but it cannot create a pressure difference, so if you try to create a vacuum in a room with it, that won’t work.
- compressor pump. it does not use a rotary blade, instead it uses a cylinder that repeatedly fills with input from the side, then a mechanical piston moves inside that compresses the (gaseous) input, then a valve opens on the other side to let the gas out. it is now compressed and at a higher pressure level. this can be used to create a vacuum and to pump gases against a pressure difference.
This has the motor inside the piece visible in the picture but the propeller is all the way down at the end of the shaft that I stick inside the canister, so it doesn’t need to suck air and thus doesn’t need priming. I bet a basic drill pump would work just fine as well despite most of them not being rated for fuel.
FYI, gas prices aren’t going “down” for at least a year. So get comfortable dude, this shit won’t be over for a while.
The gas I’ve had since last summer wouldn’t start in my new chainsaw, just got new stuff, hope it works. Bastards always say not to use 15% ethanol gas, but that’s the only gas they sell outside of super pricey hard to find options. It’s always worked before.
I think Europe cuts their diesal with rapeseed oil, forget the percentage 10 or whatever. It raises food prices but at least works as well as diesal, or at least doesn’t damage diesal engines and gaskets and lines like ethanol does, while also having worse pollution, taking as much energy or more to produce than results from it, making less work per gallon by a large margin, and raising our food prices.
Yeah, diesel handles long term storage much better than gasoline, though I’ve never had issues getting my lawnmower to run with a year old gas.
Due to additives fuels last about 3 months or so.
On the plus side this means much lower fuel use and pollution.
The primary reason not to use ethanol gas is because it’s hydroscopic. It’ll absorb water from the air, and now that water is in your fuel tank. You can always get fuel stabilizer to add in to prevent the ethanol from reacting with water molecules
Thank you I will check that out, that could save me a lot of trouble and money.
Someone did tell me somethimg similar, I want to say they used the word viscosity, but I really do not recall entirely, but they said it was something about water.
I’ve lost machines to bad/old gas. Now I only use rec gas (ethanol free) in anything that isn’t a car. It’s more expensive per gallon but overall less expensive than the $300 it cost me to get my snowblower fixed, plus the money i lost when my string trimmer died in the same year. I do have to drive five minutes further to fill my gas cans tho.
Lost machines to bad gas? Now I’m paranoid, I’ve a brand new chainsaw here. It is also leaking a pink substance which is weird, my bar and chain oil isn’t pink, or the gas, and the tanks seemed empty when I filled them, then emptied the gas and put new gas in.
Pink could be a dye. They dye some fuels so that they can be identified for different purposes so they can charge different tax rates on them, and often because standards are different for different purposes (eg. aviation fuel)
It gums up the carburetor and fuel lines. i’m told. The way it was explained to me is that small engines don’t get hot enough to burn that shit off completely, whereas it’s fine in modern cars. I’m not a mechanic, so I don’t know if that’s 100% correct. All I know is it made sense to repair the $1800 snowblower, and didn’t make sense to have the $120 string trimmer repaired (though I did try everything I knew to try in attempt to revive it on my own before replacing it).
Interesting note, before i switched to Rec fuel, my inexpensive poulan chainsaw was left with old 87 octane in it for 5 years, completely unused during that time. Then I fired it up with that old gas in it. And it still runs to this day. So I guess you never know. Sometimes you can get lucky, I suppose.
Ethanol won’t just gum up hoses. I’ve had it EAT the hose on a wood chipper of mine to the point of sorta flaking apart on the inside. Still need to replace that hose and rebuild the carb.
What will gum up hoses is old degraded fuel that will literally become sticky as it oxidizes.
Old equipment is ethanol soluble. Newer isn’t.
I always use Aspen premixed gas, it’s about 4€/l and will always start, eben when a tool has been sitting for a year. Bonus: Healthier to breathe, important when running two strokes.
Four dollars a liter is crazy expensive for us here. Like I’m not even sure how much that is, but gas is 4 a gallon here and that is $1 higher than it has been.
I should just just stop being such a cheapskate though, it takes a long time to run through a gallon.
Edit: I just checked, 4 liters to a gallon, a US gallon, apparently we don’t use the imperial gallon, or irish gallon, who knew? Who cared? Not our public schools. But holy shit, 16 Euros a gallon is a lot a lot of money. You are getting hosed. I am for changing from hydrocarbons but what are they doing with the money? Not that.
I use 25 liters of the stuff per year, it’s really not breaking the bank. Just being sure that the engines always start and not sniffing anything that’s not pure gasoline is totally worth it for me 🤷
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So… you just have a bunch of simple plastic canisters filled with diesel permanently standing around on open gravel ground?
I am utterly speechless… 😳
I didn’t say where/how I store them.
I usually dump them in the city pond and then filter it out when I need the diesel.
Smart! I store mine in paper cups next to the fireplace.
That’s really dangerous unless you have a cat
on a bucket?
Yeah, maybe I did you wrong and you have a suitable storage space with containment basin just around the corner.
But, forgive me here, state of the shed/garage (?) you took the photo in didn’t quite look to me as if this was very likely…
ACHKTUALLY
It’s like watching a mild version of a wife beater telling her look at what you made me do.
Just say you made a shitty assumption without trying to justify.
You got me wrong, I am still beating OP.
Mainly because I still have the very strong suspicion that he is an actual wife beater here (“wife” being environment/society).
I just wanted to give him a decent way out to perhaps show us how this open-diesel-canister-balancing-on-a-wobbly-bucket-above-porous-ground-scenario just was a fluke and he usually handles the stuff responsibly.
As of now, OP hasn’t taken this chance but only responded evasively.
Why not just go be a condescending jerk somewhere else? You’re killing the vibe.
Wow.
Seems like I wasn’t that far of but really have touched a nerve here, I guess.
The simple canisters are specifically designed and intended for safe transportation and medium term fuel storage.
I did ask if they had any complex fuel canisters but unfortunelately no - it only has two parts: the container itself and the cap.
The simple canisters are specifically designed and intended for safe transportation and medium term fuel storage.
They are not intended to balance with open cap on top of a wobbly bucket above porous ground, though.
My reasonable guess is that the storage situation is not much better, seeing that OP did not even bother to do the fueling-up on some sealed surface area where he at least would have had a chance to deal with possible spillage.
