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THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA WILL NEVER ALLOW A RADICAL LEFT, WOKE COMPANY TO DICTATE HOW OUR GREAT MILITARY FIGHTS AND WINS WARS! That decision belongs to YOUR COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF, and the tremendous leaders I appoint to run our Military.

The Leftwing nut jobs at Anthropic have made a DISASTROUS MISTAKE trying to STRONG-ARM the Department of War, and force them to obey their Terms of Service instead of our Constitution. Their selfishness is putting AMERICAN LIVES at risk, our Troops in danger, and our National Security in JEOPARDY.

Therefore, I am directing EVERY Federal Agency in the United States Government to IMMEDIATELY CEASE all use of Anthropic’s technology. We don’t need it, we don’t want it, and will not do business with them again! There will be a Six Month phase out period for Agencies like the Department of War who are using Anthropic’s products, at various levels. Anthropic better get their act together, and be helpful during this phase out period, or I will use the Full Power of the Presidency to make them comply, with major civil and criminal consequences to follow.

WE will decide the fate of our Country — NOT some out-of-control, Radical Left AI company run by people who have no idea what the real World is all about. Thank you for your attention to this matter. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP

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    6 hours ago

    Serve Skynet or die… you traitorous scum, is exactly how Skynet gets started and ends.

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    How are Anthropic left wing? I thought they were regarded as being not much better than ChatGPT?

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    14 hours ago

    A spoiled brat writing a angry letter to santa saying his parents don’t let him do stupid things.

    Only it’s the elected US President.

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    Dude, this just gave Anthropic so much credibility. They can literally own the entire AI market now.

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    The absurdity to claim that Anthropic is strong-arming the DoD and forcing them to do anything when just the other day it was reported that the DoD was threatening this exact action if Anthropic didn’t comply with their demands is laughable.

    It feels like a pretty low bar to clear to tell this orange fuck to piss off, but at least one of the AI companies has a spine.

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      I’m not too familiar with the specifics, but didn’t they put their foot down about just two safeguards? Sure, it’s having a spine, but I have to wonder if the line they draw isn’t a bit too far either way.

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      Anthropic is self righteous and self serving.

      Like, I like local LLMs more than most, and Anthropic models are great at the moment, but don’t mistake Anthropic for having a spine.

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        I mean… this is losing them a 200 million dollar contract. And to one of their competitors who will gladly acquiesce, so it’s hard to argue that this benefits them.

        Good marketing to a bunch of left-wing people who hate AI, I guess, but that feels like Elon joining the Trump administration in hopes of selling Teslas to rednecks, it might work on a few, but I just can’t imagine this is 4D chess that will make them a fortune when they’re abandoning that much money immediately.

        Their statement also came after the DOW threatened to put them on the list of companies that are totally banned from doing any business in America, usually reserved for Chinese companies that are deemed a national security threat, which would make it illegal for any company doing business in America to do any business with them, as they’d be added to the same list, which would have essentially killed Anthropic as a business entirely.

        You don’t have to love Anthropic because they did a good thing, they were fine with anything less than automatic killing and mass surveillance, after all, but I don’t think it’s correct to say this was sneaky and spineless somehow.

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          Eh, the context I was thinking of is that they are constantly playing “safety theatre” where it absolutely doesn’t matter. They’ve tried to kill open models and basically capture regulators by misleading or outright lying, for their benefit.

          In other words, this is a case of “a broken clock is right sometimes,” and I think they knew Trump will back down.

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            Fair, I definitely haven’t simped for them in the past just because they post some good articles on AI safety.

            Although… I’ll say of them, they seem more like what OpenAI should be, actually trying to implement AI responsibly, and freely sharing that information. It’s good research, even if marketing is the motivation. Meanwhile OpenAI, the “charity” that’s supposed to guide us to a responsible AI future, moved their most addictive and mentally dangerous model to the highest paid tier instead of actually killing it until very recently.

            Although at the end of the day, Anthropic is a for-profit company, in a better world they wouldn’t have released models publicly before this research was actually done and pressing dangers like AI psychosis were actually safeguarded against. Better late than never, sure, but the whole industry has done a lot of damage already, and the work of resolving the issues still isn’t even close to done.

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        Unfortunately, I’m not surprised in the least.

        During his first term, he wasn’t nearly as unhinged as he was during this term, because he was still building his cult, which he continued doing after he lost the 2020 election. With the 2024 election, virtually everything lined up in his favor. The Democratic candidate was somebody who had not even been in the primaries, the size of his cult was at an all-time high, and the political division was even further increased from 2016. Even with all that in his favor, he still didn’t show his most unhinged ideas until after the election.

        Anybody with a reasonable amount of intelligence would obviously have voted against him, but forward thinking doesn’t seem to be a common trait these days.

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    You have to realize, what exactly Anthropic refused: To extend the current contract to two things:

    • Autonomous Weapons (AI deciding on firing weapons to kill humans)
    • AI-powered mass surveillance of american citizens

    refusing those two things makes it to be the only AI company that is ““radical left””. Now Google, OpenAI or Grok will do what Anthropic has done already, plus mass surveillance plus AI-killcommands

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        Yeah, one of the two was a pure safety play, not even ethics.

        If I sell the military an ATV for shuffling things around on base, I might engineer a speed limiter to prevent the ATV from going faster than what its safety features are rated at. But a demand that I remove the governor so that the vehicle can go all lawful speeds totally misses the point. Whether it is illegal or unethical to do so, it’s still bad engineering to use dangerous technology beyond the scope of what it (and its safety features) has been designed for.

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        22 hours ago

        Sam Altman the infamous grifter? The same Altman whose foot in the door into the tech industry was inflating user numbers to get his app sold? That Sam Altman?

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        I don’t want to paraphrase him out of context, so here is his full statement:

        “I don’t personally think the Pentagon should be threatening DPA against these companies. But I also think that companies that choose to work with the Pentagon, as long as it is going to comply with legal protections and the few red lines that the field, we have, I think we share with Anthropic and that other companies also independently agree with, I think it is important to do that. For all the differences I have with Anthropic, I mostly trust them as a company, and I think they really do care about safety, and I’ve been happy that they’ve been supporting our warfighters.”

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      Just listened to the “Search Engine” episode about anthropic that I think came out today? I am happy they stuck to their guns, but also, yeah google, open AI, grok, whatever, will happily do whatever crimes against humanity

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    So they signed a contract, decided they don’t like the terms, now they’re trying to extort Anthropic and gaslighting to claim Anthropic is strong arming them?

    I fucking hate this administration man.

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      Anthropic took a stance against their AI in weapons and battlefield management systems. The government wants that ability and therefore chose to ban Anthropic as a supplier for government systems.

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        Yes but they already signed a contract WITH the safety limits in place.

        I get that obviously they would want them removed, bit that is not what they signed.

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          He doesn’t say anything about breaking a signed contract. Simply that Anthropic will be phased out and no longer used by the government.

          As a corollary, I doubt Anthropic’s contract will be renewed when the current one expires.

          Edit: Grammar

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            They deemed them a supply chain vulnerability.

            That’s not the same as choosing not to renew a contract.

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              Trump and Hegseth tried two different things simultaneously. They tried to deem Anthropic both a hostile actor, which would cut all DoD contracts off completely, and then also tried to declare them essential and force them to ignore the safety limits set forth in the contract, which is the supply chain thing.

              So yeah, the incompetence is showing as it always is.

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              They deemed them a supply chain vulnerability.

              This is the justification for phasing them out and (presumably) not renewing the contract. Happens all the time. Usually with less angry internet posts and more quiet paper pushing.

              It’s one of the reasons DoD things can be expensive. DoD contractors aren’t allowed to use the cheap Chinese supplier, for example.

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                No, they declared them a supply chain vulnerability and that all companies that do business with the DoD are forbidden from doing business with Anthropic.

                What that means in terms of AWS and Google Cloud being DoD contractors and being used to serve Anthropic’s models is still unclear. Potentially this means they can’t.

                This is not just justification, this was extortion, and now is them doing their best to destroy this company for standing up to them.

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            He doesn’t say anything about breaking a signed contract

            Ofc he wouldn’t say that, especially if it’s true LOL

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      This is exactly what he did with every single trade deal he spent the last year working on. It’s a pattern of behavior.

      And basically why we’re where we are with Iran.

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        Yeah, you can’t do business with the US government anymore. It’s just not feasible.

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      The funniest and dumbest part of this is how he doesn’t want the "radical left AI making military decisions… When what he was pissed about is the denial of anthropic in making the final military decision to launch missiles and fire weapons to kill.

      So he’s pissed at what was allowed, and he’s pissed at what wasn’t allowed?

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    I’m just so tired of seeing 1984 and Brazil and Idiocracy and every other political warning and satire played out in the real world every goddamn day of my life

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        Yeah. A good thick slice of Anarchism might be what we need to reset things.

        That is Anarchism, with capital “A”, the anti-authority ideology.

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          wanton violence doesn’t really work, this has been tried before. you need precise and well thought out violence. last i bothered to check, something like 70-80% of the $ behind far-right america comes from like <20 people (<100 if you extrapolate that out to the world).

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            Where did they mention wanton violence? That’s not what anarchism is, and that’s also not what’s portrayed in V for Vendetta.

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              been awhile since i watched V for Vendetta, i remember it as basically just The Purge with accents and a little more monologuing

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                You should give it another viewing. There’s violence, but it’s not just random murder for its own sake like in The Purge. The protagonist carries out a series of targeted assassinations against people who were involved in detaining and experimenting on him in a concentration camp, and blows up a couple of empty buildings at the beginning and end of the movie in a symbolic act of defiance against a fascist regime. There’s a bit towards the end where he ships a bunch of guy fawkes masks to everyone and there’s some robbing and looting, but no killing until a secret police guy shoots an unarmed child in the street and some people jump him. The plot overall is about people rising up against and toppling a fascist regime, which is pretty relevant to current events.