Russian women or Russian female children?
Honestly, that probably one of the tamer things in those files.
Are you familiar with the documents in the files claiming he tried to source antibiotics for something he “caught” from those underage Russian girls, with intention of also secretly slipping his wife the same antibiotics for the STI he likely gave to her? https://www.btimesonline.com/articles/176578/20260201/epstein-files-reveal-bill-gates-caught-an-std-and-asked-for-antibiotics-to-give-wife-melinda-in-secret.htm
What a guy. /sarcasm /notsorry
If we were in a different “sub”, I’d also now post a photograph of a wooden assembly using a heavy, sharpened piece of metal that uses gravity to powerfully remove things from other things, but the mods here have previously educated me to the fact they do not allow that. >.>
A comically large cigar tip cutter
Oh, I’m certainly not afraid of a few guillotines coming out. I’d imagine America could Really help out boosting French trade once they bring up their guillotine industry. No one makes them like they do.
The conservation of energy in that device is splendid.
Just make sure that the guy who has to pull the rope is paid a living wage. ☝️🧐
I kinda disagree, they were probably underaged, I don’t know much about the epstien files, all I know is that most of the people there were preds, minors, etc.
I didn’t look into them. My sister did and she’s….not taking it well.
o.0 Really tryin’ to dodge those bio-terrorism charges.
copy that floppy
Oh…ok… now off to jail with ya!
Haha. Man, it would be cool if that’s how the American system worked.
To prison!
For sleeping with women?
For (likely) sleeping with very young girls.
Jumping to conclusions isn’t wise
EDIT: I goofed and thought the person above answered to me
Can you show me proof of that? Mila Antanova was in early 20s, not below 20 I forgot the age of that nuclear physicist, but there is zero proof of him sleeping with minors.
Besides, I recently got heavily downvoted on Lemmy for saying that tall grown men look weird when dating women that I cannot tell if they’re over 18, but my opinion on the matter aside, objectively he did not really break any laws, besides marriage.
I’m pretty sure that dosing someone unknowing with medicine is a crime, daterapedrug or not really doesn’t matter.
but there is zero proof of him sleeping with minors.
Not yet…
Forgive me for jumping to a conclusion like this, but lots of the proof still remains buried, obscured, and redacted, and any guy who willingly associates with Epstein for an “affair” is automatically a suspect in my eyes.
I think its perfectly plausible for bill gates to be a decent human being while also participating in sex with Russian womens. And until proof says otherwise, like all persons, we shouldn’t be making up stories.
if he was a decent human being he’d drop 90% of his wealth out of a helicopter and wouldn’t be asking a notorious sex trafficking criminal for advice on ways to surreptitiously slip his wife drugs for an STI he got having sex with other people.
just to set aside for a moment the possibility that the people he had sex with were coerced or children
I don’t think asking people to dump all of their money is the line that differentiates people from being good people and bad people. It’s like good people do bad things sometimes doesn’t mean we shouldn’t forgive or understand. Obviously the shit with his wife is not very good, but as it stands hasn’t he done some good? Either way probably best to judge on what we know and not the speculation as that would just lead to diluting the real story for the speculative lol
Though it is speculation, I think he is most likely guilty. We gotta wait and see.
Ohh, so he was one of the innocent people who just happened to be friends with Epstein. Here I am assuming a guy running a pedophile island wouldnt just have normal friends like Bill Gates, where they played bridge and discussed things like pharmaceuticals, on his down days of trafficking women.
The more we advance in this whole mess the more he is confessing. It’s not long before we learn he abused kids. Put him in prison
You’re gross
It’s normal if it’s gross for you, these things come with time; once you get puberty you’ll start to understand
EDIT: Do I really need the /j here?
You know that is not what the user meant.
That is literally why my comment is a joke, I did not argue the comment, I joked about it.
To elaborate: I do not get insulted about things I’m sure they’re wrong about (about me), it just makes me laugh
Responding with “once you get puberty you’ll start to understand” to someone who thinks you are defending a pedophile probably ain’t the wisest move though. A joke, maybe but don’t expect that shit to land well at all.
Point taken
I think the assumption is that they were underage, trafficked women.
Stop calling them “underage women”. Adopting the apologist language used by the news media is what the pedo cult wants.
The correct term is children
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Assuming you really want to know …
In the US (where Bill Gates lives), we don’t generally consider women to be women until they are of age. “Underage women” is an oxymoron. They are appropriately referred to children, girls, or teens.
Ah. Thanks; I was genuinely curious. So, people feel the term is overly PC and sanitizes the topic. I get it, I suppose.
You never answered my question.
Nah you’re fucking gross dude.
Assumptions can be dangerous and make you look like an idiot. There has been zero proof that Gates was involved with minors and I’m not going to go that far until there is at least something pointing to it besides the fact that he met with Eipstein.
There has been zero proof that Gates was involved with minors
I believe Trump’s made similar claims. Good thing the files are full of redactions.
Epstein was more than a child trafficker. He dealt in information, blackmail material and financial… “services”, as I understand it. Having been had contact with him isn’t immediate proof of any specific crime, because his portfolio is so wide, and also because I imagine a snake like him will have slithered into many places the high and wealthy congregate.
The question then is the extent and nature of the connections. On one hand, I’m all for being cautious about assuming guilt.
On the other, this is a billionaire we’re talking about. I find myself less charitable with good will when it comes to parasites of that caliber.
contact with him isn’t immediate proof of any specific crime
And this is why we have courts and rule of law and not mob rule. The mob clearly is ready to hang him. And if he is guilty, he should.
But at the moment, there is no clear proof that I’m aware of.
So it’d be fucking nice if people would take a damn step back and concentrate on supporting the rule of law and getting this evidence into courts so that we can have the best possible chance of convicting and punishing the guilty.
Because let’s be clear: I support punishment for all who are guilty.
But mob rule is what the fascists want and thrive on. Trump says “X is guilty” and the fucking cult goes nuts and presses for their death.
Can our side NOT be like that? Please?
My only misgivings with the court of law are that they’re slow (a necessary byproduct of diligence) and that the law they’re adjudicating is biased (really more of an issue with the legislation). There is also the problem of corrupt or biased judges, but corruption is a universal concern.
They’re still more reliable than a lynching based on suspicion and emotion.
Exactly. Blackmail.
I suggest you actually do some deeper reading into this whole mess. I got too bored and the image completely changed for me. It’s way deeper and and Occam’s razor is not going to work here. Eipstein really did a lot of blackmailing, it was already proven that some emails were straight up fabricated.
That aside - it is now known who the two women were, and Bill did not met them thru Eipstein, neither were they underage. The whole Eipstein mess actually came after these two women.
I agree. Just clarifying why I think people are calling for him to go to prison.
“I never knew the man.”
“Okay I knew him but only casually.”
“Okay we hung out a bit.”
“Okay I spent time on his rape island but didn’t partake.”
“Okay I had consensual sex with women there.” — You are here.
“Okay they were trafficked sex victims and it was rape.”
“Okay they were children.”
… “Okay we ate the children to dispose of the evidence.”
I mean, at this point? A lot of shit has been redacted and Epstein’s proven heavily involved in longevity research.
Anyone seriously want to rule out the possibility all those Andrenochrome Harvesting allegations Trump’s team made about Clinton are a confession?
yep. Every accusation is a confession when these people are concerned.
And all the while Elon Musk was outside the window, begging to be let in on the sex parties.
Poor guy.
He loves this narrative, but the reality is that both him and his family are all heavily involved.
I don’t clear Gates for falling in with Epstein, but this dude is clearly the fall guy for the tech sector. From old media to social media.
It wasn’t Gates at the front of the inauguration: Meta, Amazon, Google, Twitter. DJT kept all his Epstein stooges close, that’s a consistent. These folx also are all mysteriously missing from the Epstein files.
Gates is just the easiest target because Microsoft is the enemy of where The Big 4 want the tech sector to go.
This scenario isn’t really useful as a ‘fall guy’. He’s just one of many, his culpability does nothing to detract from anyone else’s culpability. In fact, his admissions reinforce the substance of the Epstein files and strengthen any allegations that stem from them about others.
Or maybe it’s because Gates is not a CEO anymore?
I don’t think it matters. He’s most commonly associated with Microsoft, so that’s what people will associate his actions with when they see / hear him brought up.
You are probably right, all of the guys that weren’t redacted were done so at the direction of the president, we only found out about the ones that didn’t make a deal with him, be it to do him favors like sending money into his secret accounts, his favorite type of favor to receive I suspect; and or not telling people the things they themselves know, or the evidence they have, that can implicate the president and his pals.
That said, fuck them all. Let’s nail these fuckers to the wall, then work and razing and burning the rest. This scandal is the key, it’s not going away.
It stands to reason that every single bribe he got was to censor their name on the lists. They knew a year in advance the papers were going to be released, so had plenty of time.
It makes me suspicious of everyone, like the people of FIFA who gave him a nobel price. Was that also just some show to get their names censored?
Yes, but it’s also worth considering that some people might have their own evidence that could implicate the president and his pals, and those people would have their own blackmail, which is kind of why the president hasn’t criticized anyone on the epstein lists, he’s expressed sympathy for them, even as it’s his nemesis bill clinton, wearing a dress.
If he could get away with it, he would be trashing them, money or no, he’s clearly afraid of what information others have, that if one of them gets nailed on these allegations they could start to release what information they have compiled creating a circular firing squad.
So if we could find and steal the information from one of these guys, then make it look like that person leaked it to hurt the others on the list, we could maybe start a chain reaction of them ratting on each other, to hopefully reach the king of the rats here.
The FIFA was/is fighting a legal battle for corruption in the USA
What do you mean by
Microsoft is the enemy of where The Big 4 want the tech sector to go
It’s Capitalism. Microsoft is still #1 in home computer OS un the US. The faster Microsoft falls out of mainstream OS is when the upper echelon of tech can replace it with their own home spying system. It may/may not be personal, but it’s all Capitalism and control. Imagine Meta releasing their own OS - absolute Black Mirror; but if that’s what they’re able to convince suppliers to ship, people will buy it regardless of politics or policy.
Microsoft has been struggling in the gaming sector (public opinion). Microsoft has been struggling in the OS sector (public opinion). They’re still a giant in the tech industry, but they’re certainly sliding and it’s only a matter of time. Bill Gates being painted as a pedo is certainly one of those nails in the coffin of public opinion in Microsoft and Microsoft Tech (regardless who’s actually running MS).
Microsoft wants you to own a computer and pay for their office app on subscription. The others want you to just let go of hardware and be a part of their AI ecosystems.
Microsoft wants you to own a computer and pay for their office app on subscription.
Windows 11 has been pivoting hard into SaaS and Cloud Computing. A lot of the data center build out of driving indie data hosting companies and hardware manufacturers out of business.
One way or another, we’re being pushed onto a fully Walled Garden ecosystem.
Microsoft does not care about you, your computer or your licence. Microsoft cares about having a monopoly in business applications. By being the only player in this field, they ensure that they remain the (almost) only OS on personal computer. If your work uses Microsoft, your school will teach you Microsoft and you will more than likely buy a laptop to run Microsoft product. And they will collect everything.
Microsoft are also toying with renting people cloud desktops they will never own. They’ve already got cloud gaming, and they’re as much in on AI as anyone.
They could practically rename themselves Azure at this point, with Office as a product line. Since they have decided to stop naming themselves Copilot at every level I guess. Everything is cloud now with them. Hell I have an Azure VM myself hosting a ton of sites, most cost effective than on-prem for me. Sigh.
Microsoft Azure 365 Premium Plus for Business
Both “affairs” and “women” doing some heavy lifting here.
He admits to the affairs, but denies they had any relation to Epstein. He also denies having any relation or awareness to any of Epstein’s sex crimes. Idk if he’s telling the truth, or if he is doing a partial admission to make it seem as though he is not lying
Almost certainly the latter. Gates has some of the best PR money can buy. Every damning revelation that has come out linking him to Epstein has been paired with Gates admitting to some less serious transgression.
There is more proof of him sleeping with two Russian women than there is any proof of him getting involved with minors
If you look at what’s been released, ignores the redactions, and refuse to engage in any amount of critical thinking, there is absolutely no reason to believe Gates fucked a kid.
Also, if you take Howard Lutnick at his word, he walked straight out of Epstein’s house when he saw that massage table and never said spoke to Jeff again.
And, of course, Trump was a white hat pedophile who brought Epstein down from the inside. He should be celebrated as a hero.
What
Who the fuck cares? He’s a parasite who directly benefited from the services of Jeffrey Epstein, who explicitly WAS INVOLVED WITH MINORS it was no secret to these people that made their money and got their jollies off directly as a result to some capacity from man who sex trafficked children.
Guilt by association. Every one of these people who received illicit services from the group kid diddler, should be punished just as harshly.
Bill really nearly whitewashed away all the horrible business practices and cutthroat shit he did in the 80s and 90s with the Gates Foundation.
But man, he looks like he aged a shitload in the short while since all the Epstein stuff really came to light.
He is still doing shitty stuff. He bailed out Monsanto with a big investment, and is a big proponent of their herbicides and proprietary round up ready seeds, and owns, what is it 5 or approaching 10% of farmland in the US to use it on.
He’s big into geo engineering, trying to get governments to agree to let them spray masses of sulphur dioxide in the upper atmosphere to blot out the sun, totally not a Mr. Burns move. As if he knows the unintended consequences that could result, or as if other countries that would be affected agreed to it, to say nothing of the wildlife, (ie test projects have already shown in the westerh hemisphere it will make africa drier.)
What else, he intervened in covid vaccines to prevent a not for profit open source vaccine. The very idea horrified him somehow. He seems like he’s trying to do good sometimes and does evil. He has a case of billionairism where everyone around him agrees with everything he says and he thinks the laser light of knowledge shines out of his ass.
he thinks the laser light of knowledge shines out of his ass
Pure poetry, love this.
But man, he looks like he aged a shitload in the short while since all the Epstein stuff really came to light.
The photo in the above article is at least 4 years old. It’s used in this Forbes article from Nov ‘21, where it’s captioned "Bill Gates attends the World Leaders’ Summit at COP26 on November 2, 2021, in Glasgow, Scotland".
Yeah, never trust billionaires who are all talk about being charitable and yet their net worth hadn’t even gone down significantly. They’re still billionaires.
I dint believe him one second, most because he was obviously using it to do money laundering, he went on AMA subreddit quite a few times too pre-2020, plus his vaccine push in africa was met with criticism too.i always felt he was quite a slimy person. and it was well known rich people like to do 'philantrophy" in AFRICA to cleanse themselves of guilt, or hate done to POCs.
For anyone that still needs to hear this: there are no good billionaires! ABAB. This dude right here was the poster child for "good billionaires’. I don’t know whether only evil fuckers can become billionaires (probably), but I do know that having access to functionally unlimited wealth and power will inevitably warp your soul.
Any good billionaire could donate down to being a hundred-millionaire and live a life of obscene comfort for generations. Why wouldn’t you, if you weren’t trash?
a billionaire would never give enough away money to make themselves poor, they are too use to that lifestyle. like a millionaire dont want to be 10 or 100 thousandaire.
This dude right here was the poster child for “good billionaire”
Really? I mean he tried really hard to whitewash his image with his charity and malaria research, but he was always a piece of absolute shit and the ‘good billionaire’ label was always a scam: DOS deal games, monopoly behavior, billionaire policy capture through his foundation, education meddling, vaccine-IP politics, nothing he did was truly charity, everything was self serving.
I fully agree with you. I been team “fuck Bill Gates” forever. I just mean that there’s a whole lot of people that were jock-riding him.
gates was and is one of the most ruthless billionaires, thats why his sudden pivoting to “helping africa” was all but disengenious, but now it made sense since the epstein files came out.
RIP T Swift
Yeah the money thing can make good people terrible
I don’t think Billionaires like Gates were corrupted by their money. Rather, I think only narcissistic sociopaths care to do all the fuck of things necessary to amass that kind of wealth and power. Anyone with a conscious would stop much earlier.
Imagine winning the game. But you have decades of your life left. By definition, you have access to the most exclusive of everything. Nobody ever tells you “no”. I’m not surprised these fucks decide that even the the most universal social taboos shouldn’t confine them.
The thing is, you can start to taste that at a much lower level, that’s why everyone tries to get there. Normal people would retire and look to enjoy their life at $100 mill. But once they get that taste, they want more of it. That’s why we put down lions, sharks and crocodiles after they eat a human. Oh, and because they’re not billionaires.
The phrase “underage women” is the biggest lie mainstream media has pushed as part of all of this. These scumbags didn’t have sex with “underage women”. The raped children.
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He’s trying to satisfy people by admitting to a smaller thing rather than the worse things he did. Classic PR.
Soon enough the two Russian women will in fact be two Russian girls.
Slightly better than Spacey suddenly deciding to come out as a proud gay man, but not by much
or saying his job was tied to COVID.
All this is making Torvalds and FOSS look better.
