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InevitableSwing [none/use name]@hexbear.net to Chapotraphouse@hexbear.netEnglish · 2 days ago

American freedom of speech! You're free to speak unless you're critical of data centers and you talk for longer than 3 minutes. In that case - you get arrested and taken away in cuffs.

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American freedom of speech! You're free to speak unless you're critical of data centers and you talk for longer than 3 minutes. In that case - you get arrested and taken away in cuffs.

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InevitableSwing [none/use name]@hexbear.net to Chapotraphouse@hexbear.netEnglish · 2 days ago
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    yeonmi-park “In capitalist America, people who criticize the bourgeoisie and try to access public records about them become political prisoners.”

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      Was about to post this same comment emoji and all.

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    If you cannot explain your grievance to the government in under 180 seconds, believe it or not, jail

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    speech-side-r-1 What is the charge? speech-side-r-2 democracy-manifest

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      Classic we just need to get you out of here and possibly an excuse to rough you up then release in morning after terrible night in a jail

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      Presenting some documents? A succulent set of FOIA/ORA documents?

  • Commiechameleon [any, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    Less and less reason to cozy up to civility each and every day…

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      😔

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      @Civility@hexbear.net do you see this?

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        😥

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    Data centers are going to get so much worse

    • InevitableSwing [none/use name]@hexbear.netOP
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      Yes - it’s true that your community will be polluted and the polluters will face no consequences at all. Yes - your water bill went up. Yes - your electricity bill went up. Yes - anything with RAM you buy is going to be very expensive. AI is guaranteed to make the average American’s life worse. And AI slop will infect and pollute everything Americans enjoy from music to movies to tv shows. But have you considered the truly ginormous mountains of cash existing coast-to-coast grabbed by the grifting powerful, richest Americans. They’ll be richer and more powerful by ten times if not a hundred or even more.

      It’s the wonder of capitalism coming at you like high speed rail, baby. Which - of course - the US will never have.

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        • Thordros [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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          Somebody could make a bit account where they post this on every relevant news article, but they’d probably get rate limit throttled.

      • Self_Sealing_Stem_Bolt [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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        The data centers arent actually gonna get built. One, amerika cant build shit, and two, amerika cant produce the power required for the data centers.

        Theyll fuck everything up trying to realize this impossible dream, but most data centers arent gonna happen

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          Every new data center is stil harmful though. I don’t live in the US but new US owned data centers get built here quite regularly and they have ruined our ecosystem and power grid already.

          Newly built schools are forced to buy their own power generator because there is no capacity left on the energy grid.

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            The maddening part are people who don’t even live in these areas defending that shit and downplaying the effects

        • ThermonuclearHoxha [comrade/them, mirror/your pronouns]@hexbear.net
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          Even if a lot won’t, some are actually being built. I’ve visited the new Abilene AI data center in person (they preemptively addressed potential concerns about power/water usage, claiming “we’re not the bad guys”) and they’re expanding it like crazy…

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          They’re still going to clear and pollute a ton of land in their journey of failure

        • darkcalling [comrade/them, she/her]@hexbear.net
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          The data centers won’t get built, the US will collapse any day now, Russia’s victory is assured in another 6 months with a major offensive and Ukraine’s front will collapse due to not enough soldiers and the tide will completely turn, the US won’t build capacity to decouple from China. Nothing but cope and I have to admit cope from the left is still cope.

          Maybe the AI bubble implodes, maybe it doesn’t. The bourgeoisie seem serious about marshaling their funds to create a real dagger of automation to hold at the throat of labor to drive down worker power in a time of decline and no more expansion.

          America’s infrastructure is shit because the bourgeoisie don’t care, because there’s no reason to invest in it. Because like a lot of things they own its best kept in a just barely working state and a few catastrophic failures that kill some proles are a small price to pay for operating “lean”. America can build things and data centers are relatively easy to build. There’s lots of construction companies in the US. It’s not like shipyards where you need these special spaces, special equipment, special know-how, special supply-chains, and specially trained workers and where the bourgeoisie don’t really care about matching China’s capacity so far.

          As to power that’s easily solved, repeal EPA regulations, run dirty generators off diesel and fracked gas, bring dirty power plants online, charge consumers through the nose to pay for expansion of capacity, blame consumers running air conditioning or appliances too much for rolling brown-outs that happen. Run the grid overloaded at 110% capacity, etc.

          Even if they build 50% of the planned amount it’s going to create problems. Even if they’re delayed by a year or two.

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            deleted by creator

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          That’s actually good for AI because the sooner they get built the sooner the mirage of LLMslop is revealed. “AI” is only perceived valuable right now because it’s pretending it’s on the edge of being realized but constrained by various small hurdles. Them constantly saying “just 100 more data centers and it’ll be omnipotent” is the whole point of the grift.

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      In India right wing governments are funding foreign companies to build data centers in their states lol. Along with like 15 years long tax breaks.

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        Sounds like a recipe for disaster with the heat waves over there

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          thonk often perilous water sources? existing pollution problems? regular extreme heat events? An already extremely subjugated underclass? surely there will be no consequences to exacerbating all of these issues simultaneously? thonk

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      cool-zone

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        Here’s what Benn Jordan just put out from his ongoing research about the infrasonic problems https://youtu.be/_bP80DEAbuo

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          I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

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    The fucking hog with the Oakley’s on the back of his head

    • InevitableSwing [none/use name]@hexbear.netOP
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      Related https://hexbear.net/comment/6930922

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    They came for the long winded and there was nobody to speak for me

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    Anyone else notice the cop wearing the shades backwards and upside down? It’s like something in nature warning others to stay away “I’m a dickhead, don’t come near me or I may do something bad to you”

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      They’re like that like spitting dinosaur with the neck thing in Jurassic Park.

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    They arrested him for “trespassing”.

    CLAREMORE, Okla. -Things got heated Tuesday night during a meeting about a proposed data center for the city’s industrial park, and one person was taken into custody. Claremore police arrested Darren Blanchard for trespassing during the meeting after officers said he refused to follow the rules after going over his allotted time to speak. Police escorted the man out of the meeting and booked him into the Rogers County Jail.

    https://www.newson6.com/tulsa-oklahoma-news/arrest-made-during-heated-claremore-meeting-over-proposed-data-center

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      Trespassing is such a magical device, you can turn anyone you want into a criminal by deciding after the fact that they’re persona non grata and they’re guilty because they didn’t predict the future and teleport out of there beforehand.

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        Trespassing is such a magical device.

        It certainly is.

        I’m actually surprised the cops don’t use that somehow. Like they want to arrest somebody who is sitting in their own car. The cops could walk up to the car, say “We’re commandeering this vehicle,” and then arrest everybody in the car for trespassing.

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          They usually go for “disorderly conduct” (you had a feeling about the situation at hand) or “obstruction of justice” (you didn’t let me do whatever I wanted) if they want to take someone away for bs reasons (even if the charges are dropped next week).

          Technically trespassing requires a verbal warning at which time you’re allowed to leave freely before they arrest you.

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            Don’t forget “breach of the peace” (ie I disapprove of you saying or doing things)

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            Technically trespassing requires a verbal warning at which time you’re allowed to leave freely before they arrest you.

            Somebody must’ve said “Stop talking,” to the guy before they called the pigs in.

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              In the end it doesn’t really matter whether or not they did it by the book. Contrary to what procedures-fetishist liberals believe, whether or not this is valid is either up to the politics of the judge or twelve of the most paranoid nimbys the prosecutor can suss out who will see the word “trespassing” and immediately vote to convict

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          kinda what ICE is doing

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    If this was some maga crank wearing a plate carrier and had an ar-15 they’d let him stay.

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      Every time some nazi agitator shows up to city council meetings across the country they all collectively throw up their hands and go, “well, it’s public property so we can’t do anything blob-no-thoughts”

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      But they have no choice. It’s quasi-official policy that hogs in official uniforms with guns work with hogs in unofficial uniforms with guns.

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    “We find you guilty of being glue whereas vis a vis ipso facto the state is rubber and henceforth go to jail”

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    you took too long, now your freedoms gone, that’s what happened, begow!

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      I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

      • yewtu.be
      • inv.nadeko.net
      • yt.artemislena.eu
      • piped.video

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