• Hate ai companies, not the technology. openai, midjourney, et all, should all be sued into the ground for the massive scale theft of intellectual property and other harm they’ve done to artists and other creatives.

    however

    there are actual good use cases for this technology. Personally, I’m fond of using it to turn my drunken ramblings into coherent notes for later works. This would be totally fine to do, if the ai’s that were any good were made ethically and responsibly.

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          Do you also uphold this same standard for those, who say murder, child sexual abuse, animal abuse, etc. are bad? At least two of those three mentioned has way more performative activism attached to them, than to anti-AI, with most performative anti-AI activism coming from AI-grifters (!) themselves generating anti-AI propaganda, and/or those who only concerned about AI use in their own field.

          Just because someone thinks even self-defense should be illegal due to “murder is bad even if the murdered is bad, uwu” doesn’t make murder not bad.

          Just because someone thinks lolicon and not having pubic hair is literally pedophilia (or at least “normalizes” it) doesn’t make child sexual abuse not bad.

          Just because someone thinks meat is murder or posts “let’s call John Wick!” on even the smallest forms of animal abuse (or even fake ones) doesn’t make animal abuse not bad.

          And just because of anti-AI sentiments being popular even among some AI users for some parts doesn’t negate the negative impacts of generative AI on the society. Boomers will still be fooled by them (even I can be if I don’t use a magnifier glass every time to check for artifacts - at least convincing photoshops like that old image of Osama Bin Laden, George Bush, and Barack Obama being photoshopped onto the bodies of rabbis took effort from nazis to create, not just googling how to jailbreak advanced models), scammers are going to use it to augment or automate their scams, grifters are going to use it to spam “art” to get ad revenue for their first Porsche, the gas turbines are pollluting the environment, the people behind it are snake oil salesmen, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera!

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            They never have concrete rebuttals to thought-out replies. If it was a matter of thinking, they wouldn’t be going to bat for generative AI. Good work though.

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              This is the problem. You completely misinterpreted my comment to fuel your own anti-AI agenda. I made no mention of whether AI was good or bad. It was a comment about people who are posting anti-AI content. Then you took that and said OH! Anybody against us is pro-AI! This is the problem. This attitude will only push people away, not bring people in.

              This attitude is why we have Trump. It only creates division.

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                Nah cynical dipshits on the internet who try to Jordan Peterson every conversation about art theft and AI regulation who are creating division. Have a good one, enjoy your AI titties and shit.

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            Had a lot to unpack there huh?

            1. I never said anything about AI being good or bad. Your comment is misdirected.

            2. The criticism is of everybody joining the anti-AI circlejerk like they’re actually doing something to help. It’s like Lemmy is just a big anti-AI support group. Instead you can promote groups that are driving legislation to control AI, groups that are helping people affected by AI, develop and share data to support your sentiments towards AI.

            I get it. Wanting to belong to a community is one of the most human traits there is and the anti-AI circlejerk is at its essence a protest against digital conformity and for conserving what it means to be human.

            It’s also sad to see how desperate people are to belong to something that they’ll just regurgitate the same thoughtless messages over and over with no real progress holding on to every last bit of connection until it inevitably fades away and everybody is left feeling like they fought the good fight when really they just jerked each other off until they bled into the abyss and life kept moving on without them.

            Just my 2¢. 🤪

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              I like the term community pilled instead of anti AI. Simply placing meaningful human interaction over soulless machine interaction.

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                That’s great except the anti-AI community is actually not very inviting. But it is human to be flawed.

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                  I would hereby like to issue a formal invitation to the pro-human community!

                  With the emphasis lying on breaking free from the fake and inauthentic interactions of digital life. You can still have a digital life and even use a some AI, but the human spirit should not be smothered in the way that it is now.

                  (partial sarcasm) Join today rediscover your humanity!

                  Edit: Preaching to the choir here I imagine

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        If you could profit from it, Lemmy would be a hell hole in an instant. I’m happy that “karma” doesn’t even really matter here at all.

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          Once I made an elaborate anti-AI post that looks like pro-AI one if you fail to read it; got heavily downvoted, ignored and banned. That was worth more than any amount of up arrows. Pure bliss.

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            Made a comment saying a meme is probably AI slop. Got heavily downvoted because it was a ‘known’ meme template, even had some guys calling me a ‘whiteknight’ and ‘AI paranoid’. Edited the post and told people to look at the woman’s face in the meme, it was all deformed. Downvotes became upvotes, upvotes became downvotes, felt better than sex.

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            You can pay them with all the pride, dignity and false confidence you’ve generated from all those upty dupties

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        You give me a great idea! I will create a lemmy instance with ai-powered upvotes running in a blockchain so that people can profit from it /s

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            NFC is cool.

            NFT might fit better in the conversation, but if you actually meant NFC, I would be curious of your objections to it.

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    If only it were “super easy” when it’s being shoved down our throat by pretty much every company on the planet…

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      The science was sound and built on a reliable use of electricity for output that people tried to get clever with but eventually settled into a more casual relationship with instead of expecting anything amazing from?

      I mean honestly yeah probably will end up similar to microwaves where local running versions that people operating it are ok with lower quality will use, use it and its considered gross for professional setups.

      Good comparison.

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      I think a lot of people in the west are kind of sleeping on the capabilities of microwaves. They’re fantastic.

      That’s not an endorsement of AI.

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        After having 2 microwaves barely lasting more than a year in sequence, I decided no never have one again and rely on a small electric oven. It’s not the same, but it’s also great to use and it’s lasting 5 years so far. I don’t even miss a microwave anymore

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          Wow. That’s some shit luck, and I definitely get why you’d choose to not have one.

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          Don’t think we’ve had one last less than a decade.

          But if you don’t need one, you don’t need one. No need to clutter your home with another appliance just because it can occasionally heat up leftovers in a minute or something. I find it convenient but I’ve also lived without it and it was fine.

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          Bro, the AI delusion is destroying the USA. Environmental protections are being rolled back to power it. It’s inflating US econony with fake deals. It is being shoved in our faces by clueless C-suite admin.

          The Tech Bros are the ones repeating over and over again that “GenAI” is the future while outputting garbage at real human cost. This artist wants to express their frustration with the constant badgering.

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            I understand and support the same points you are talking about, my friend. I just think the statement is getting overused, you know? Some of the jokes aren’t even trying to be smart or refreshing, just “AI is bad and useless! LOL, am I right?”. Maybe I would like it more if it was more focused on the negative impact of AI as you just said, but it seems to always go for the low hanging fruit and the feeling of being somehow special for not interacting with AI. Like, I get it but it’s kinda weak and silly. It’s an important subject and should be treated as such. Anyway, it seems like most people here enjoy it and It’s just not for me.

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          I just think it’s silly

          I think you need to ask yourself why this one thing is annoying you enough that you felt the need to push back. I don’t want to know, I won’t even see the reply, I am suggesting you ask yourself why it’s important to you to fight a sentiment that a vast number of people who don’t otherwise share anything, happen to all feel the same about and what good you think you’re doing for anyone, even if it’s just yourself.

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      this is literally the only message i see being conveyed. i wonder what they meant to say?