Dig this big crux.

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    Liberals still having trouble conceptualising that MAGA is a death cult that has no issue with policies that kill everyone.

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    A ‘business’ contact that is on a social media that I have to use for work, posted essentially the opposite of this, claiming that none of these are abortions, and if your provider says that they are, that you just need to find another provider. Challenge here is that none of the providers are willing to take the risk…

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    Doesn’t affect them until it directly affects them. They won’t support it until it directly affects them. Because it never affects enough of them at once, nothing ever changes.

    Fermi’s Paradox was staring us in the face the whole time.

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    Oh, here’s the other time abortion is acceptable to Republican women: when they (or their daughters) fuck some guy that they shouldn’t (for whatever reason) and then get pregnant.

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    Won’t work on them unless they’re actually in the process of dying.

    Conservatives don’t care about being warned about things. They only care when those things happen directly to them and they have to actively deal with the consequences.

    Remember seeing some pristine examples of this during COVID. Conservatives in the process of dying in the hospital and then start begging for help.

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    I asked my pro-life mom if she thinks women should have the right to privacy in their medical decisions or if the government should be kept in the loop and have a veto stamp.

    That’s the reality of banning abortions that most Republicans will hate. Banning abortions means the government needs access to your medical records and the government will make decisions on what medical procedures you can have. Not you and a doctor.

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      It’s already an insurance board making those decisions, why not let the government in? They might make it better (not in this case though…)

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      It also opens us up to the flip side. People love to spout off the “parenting should require a license”. The first obvious problem is what happens when someone who isn’t licensed gets pregnant/gets someone pregnant. Abortion is the only viable answer. If the government has the legal ability to make you carry a baby to term, it also has the legal ability to prevent you from carrying a baby to term.

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      My conservative grandma who votes R every time because of abortion had an abortion for an ectopic pregnancy. When my mother was pregnant with me at fifteen, she offered her an abortion.

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          She would never acknowledge the fact that she wanted me aborted, so it’s not something I’ve heard justified. This is a family tree defined by sexual violence, so there are a lot of topics which exist in that liminal space.

          Republican women live in a world that is governed by fear and control. Abortion being an option removes that aspect of fear. There is something in it that works the same way a “kink” does, that if one follows the rules and takes the hurt, everything works out in the end. Why would you take out the hurt/is it actually a feasible option to take out the hurt?

          But to actually answer your question, asking her the question would just not get a response.

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      I’ve read that conservatives model the world as “strict rules that have exceptions made on a case by case basis”. That maybe works if you’re in a small village. Smarter people realize that doesn’t scale and you should write better rules in the first place.

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        Oh but it does scale: Abortions are forbidden with the following exceptions:

        • The carrying mother requests one.
        • The carrying mother is in no condition to express her will and her pregnancy puts her life in danger, in which case we can refer to consent forms she would have already filled covering such cases, doctors and her family).
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    “I’d kill a thousand women!”

    "… ‘If it means saving one unborn child?’ "

    “…”

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    They think it will be just poor women who will die, so they’re ok with it.

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      It has nothing to do with rich vs poor women. It is ungodly women who deserve it.

      Unless of course they have it happen to them. Then it is undeserved.

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    “I thought they’d make an exception for my abortion” sobs woman who voted for the Women Dying of Pregnancy Complications Party.

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    The treatment for an unwanted pregnancy is abortion.

    People really dance around this issue, but we simply need to give women access to safe abortions for unwanted pregnancies.

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      No no, the compassionate approach is to force the women to bear the child, raise it in poverty and neglect if not outright constant abuse, wash out into the foster care system, grow up with no skills and fewer prospects, become homeless and then round them up and throw them in prison when they use drugs to cope with their shit lives. Just like Jesus wants, you baby murderer!

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        As a billionaire living my best life, I’m taking $30m from the first 200 people who don’t message me ‘stinkleton’. I understand that many people are struggling with bills, and I want to help increase that burden.

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    See there’s a difference between them having a life saving medical treatment or their daughter having a unplanned vacation vs a minority or poor person getting abortion.

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    Well, hopefully it hurts more Republican women living in those states than the ones who voted against it. At this point, the best treatment is to let the disease kill off the other disease and rebuild after, even though it will cause damage, because the only way the idea will be killed off is if the supporters start dying off in larger numbers.