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Libs very clearly don’t care that Ukraine is run by fascists. They don’t need to even bother pretending because the media in the west simply looks the other way.
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I think you’re making the mistake of confusing what liberals say they care about with what they actually care about. The only thing that matters to them is preserving western hegemony over the world, and they only care about social issues as far as they affect them personally.
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Yeah, I agree with all that. All I’m saying is that Ukraine is a perfect illustration how selectively libs apply their values. It’s an openly fascist state, they don’t try to hide it, and they don’t even see the need to do it. Yet, western libs conveniently look the other way because they don’t care one bit whether they stand with literal fascists, they see Russia as a threat to their ambitions, and Ukraine is just a tool to be used and discarded.
I think the focus has to be on educating people who are becoming disillusioned and falling out of liberal mainstream. As the material conditions in the west continue to decline, people are losing faith in the system, and they become open to new ideas. Unfortunately, as things stand, the right is doing a far better job recruiting than the left. For me, that’s the most worrying trend right now.
The Nazis are the army. If they reformed them out of it, the entire thing ceases to exist. They need the Nazis because they are the enforcers of the regime, they are the internal police keeping dissent in check, they are the only ones motivated to keep the war going at all costs and the only ones keeping the rest of the mobilized cannon fodder in line. They are the linchpin of the whole Maidan project.
please note that the source here (telegraaf) is a nazi newspaper that was banned after ww2 (sadly temporarily) so its extra surprising that they report this, maybe its nothing but maybe this could be significant, could it be that even european nazi’s are giving up on ukraine? or maybe they still think they can get russia as an ally in the coming war with china or something?
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dont think so, just a common name for newspapers
I don’t get it. Yes this planet has some messed up people on it, including even wannabe Nazis. But don’t they know better than to out themselves with that stupid salute? Couldn’t they blend in more without it? Sheesh.
“Sierra Hotel” is an oft heard greeting in the bundeswehr. It’s nato alphabet, SH = “Sieg Heil”.
It’s to affirm group membership. Outing yourself as part of a group makes it harder to break with it. Be it communist, christian, nazi or whatever.
One of the top government contractors, Elon Musk, has done the nazi salute in front of the whole world and nothing happened. Why would a bunch of cousin-fucking ukronazis have more decorum than him?
They are already a Banderite government that openly celebrates people who perpetrated part of the Holocaust. It’s a core part of their identity and by this point they are well aware that western press will simply ignore it because reporting on it would be “spreading Russian disinformation”.
That’s the whole thing with Ukraine being a fascist state, they’re not trying to hide it.
Why hide it, they control the government there
But don’t they know better than to out themselves with that stupid salute?
The scary part is that they do, it’s just that times have changed and they know it’s more accepted nowadays so they can be open about it in more contexts than before.
They aren’t hiding it in
and they’re done hiding it here in 
too
De Telegraaf is considered to be the least reliable source of information from all major news outlets in the Netherlands. (https://www.bnnvara.nl/joop/artikelen/nos-en-nrc-zijn-betrouwbaar-geenstijl-en-telegraaf-niet). This is my experience with them as well. Without getting into the content of what is said here, I think it is a good idea to base your opinion on information from other, more reliable sources than this one.
yeah if only there was other collaborating evidence for the fact that Ukraine is a fascist regime…
- BBC, 2014: Ukraine underplays role of far right in conflict
- Human Rights Watch, 2014: Ukraine: Unguided Rockets Killing Civilians
- The Hill, 2017: The reality of neo-Nazis in Ukraine is far from Kremlin propaganda
- The Guardian, 2017: ‘I want to bring up a warrior’: Ukraine’s far-right children’s camp – video
- WaPo, 2018: The war in Ukraine is more devastating than you know
- Reuters, 2018: Ukraine’s neo-Nazi problem
- The Nation, 2019: Neo-Nazis and the Far Right Are On the March in Ukraine
- Jacobin, 2022: A US-Backed, Far Right–Led Revolution in Ukraine Helped Bring Us to the Brink of War
- Al Jazeera, 2022: Why did Ukraine suspend 11 ‘pro-Russia’ parties?
