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BTW, before any of the dudes here say “i’m sure all women would share my breeding kink if material conditions were better”, fuck right off you incel weirdos.
We regularly see high birth rates in economically over-exploited nations simply because they have no safety net besides ones’ family and because women are deprived of reproductive autonomy. OTOH, low birth rates are, in fact, also an extremely common thing in AES countries were people are economically secure enough to have kids, it just turns out that a lot of women are not compelled by biological predestination to serve as your incubators but actively choose to be child-free. The DDR made it very easy for women to raise children, to be financially independent from their spouse, it provided affordable housing and near-total security from unemployment, it had daycares right next to the factories, an excellent school system etc. and it still had lower birth rates than West Germany. Because it also had free birth control and freely accessible abortions fully covered by public health care that were not socially stigmatized at all. And a ton of women used that option because they just did not want to have kids even though it would not have been a financial problem.
And that’s A GOOD THING. Women doing reproductive labor out of obligation and societal pressure is something that needs to be actively fought against. It’s downright scary how normalized the idea is on this site that you just need to present a girl with a house and a breadwinner husband to turn her into your baby making machine because you AmeriKKKans all have internalized so much 1950s-style patriarchal propaganda that you genuinely believe better material conditions will lead to the nuclear family becoming the core social unit again. As if that shit wasn’t just a brief, hyper-specific historical fluke that was a violent counter-movement against the vast amount of women who had begun to realize their capabilities for independence while the men were at the frontlines of WW2 and they kept the labor force going at home.
There’s also no societal benefit to having constantly growing populations with vast amount of children if you’re not under a capitalist regime of required infinite growth. Obviously you need some kids, but some women will always choose to have kids because there are many people who want that, just not everybody. The massive hand wringing around population loss is mostly from the capitalist class losing laborers and tax payers.
Fucking preach. People seem to forget that even with the best material conditions most women would not be popping out 3+ babies to serve as wage slaves for the ruling class. Being a good parent and raising kids takes a shit ton of effort so even most people who want kids like I do would rather have a number they can reasonably raise well like 1 or 2, maybe 3 in some cases, not like how it used to be where each additional child was more work for the fields and women had 0 choice. This whole birth rate shit is misogynistic propaganda mostly used to justify abortion bans and pushing women back into subservient roles. God forbid the 1% can’t have a second private jet and a 7th yacht.
Couldn’t have said it better comradeTo support your point, compare: Poland’s “economy” goes up, they’ll even be admitted to the G20 soon. It’s still a relatively “religious” country—yet the TFR is trending down.
— Changing Fertility Patterns in Poland: Urban, Suburban, and Rural Dimensions (Nov 2025)The tale it were contraceptions and whatnot is humbug for an agenda. We do have them in the West for decades now, yet the birthrate is continuously slumping even across income brackets, i. e. no mere jump to a plateau. They have been available for as long in Japan, and abortions carry less stigma. Religiosity is and was also different in Japan.
You’re not making that point, but I don’t believe people who spend most of their waking hours on activities around work or work preparation (commute into a big city because you’re priced out of an apartment; recovery from workplace circumstances and uncertainty) are inclined to have children. Once you toil, in SK, US, and Japan, you have to have a high savings rate to have hope to escape that lifestyle and forced infantilization—which will move age-at-first-birth up, yet desire to get children (naturally) decreases with age, for men and women. (It’s at 3 for early 20s, plateaus at early 40s.)
Do anything but address the terrible work culture and material conditions. Have they tried blaming the gays?
Oh look…how surprising
Dec. 10 2025 - Japan rejects same-sex marriage to save itself from demographic collapse CW homophobia / Chud news
lol as if doing that will turn them straight
No, but plenty of boomer/older gen x gay men in Japan chose to marry women. I’m sure my ex was one of them. Millenials may go down the same route as they start to get older if things don’t improve for them.
I’m sure the hard line conservative PM who views Thatcher as someone to deify rather than a grave to defile will fix this
Make some more horny anime
That will surely solve the problem
You can’t convince me that Spy ecks Family isn’t heterosexual propaganda.
Release the seismic HDT jiggle physics.
MORE TITTY BONES, MORE I SAY!
Be mindful of the distinction between ‘births per year’ and ‘births per woman:’
Ceteris paribus, births per year could decrease due to demographics alone.(I don’t like the label ‘fertility rate’ because it shifts the blame on biology, like eggs or sperm count, which arguably did not change.)
However, reportedly both are slumping in Japan.
(I don’t like the label ‘fertility rate’ because it shifts the blame on biology, like eggs or sperm count, which arguably did not change.)
It might have changed a bit given microplastics, but I agree that fertility rate is a bad term because it sounds like it’s about how many people are fertile.
