I have never in my life ever been prompted to apologize for being white, and am not aware of anyone in the US being asked or told to apologize for being white.
Some white people have been prompted to apologize for being racist assholes, sure, but that is a separate thing. Clarence Thomas should also apologize for being a racist asshole for his views and rulings on civil rights decisions for example.
That’s the point though: they assume every white person is a racist asshole just like them, so apologizing for one is apologizing for the other. When you live the life of a white supremecist day-in, day-out, the way they do, you start to think that’s just how life is. You can’t see racist entitlement from the inside of the racists. It’s just “the way of things.”
Obligatory fuck JD Vance.
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I don’t have to read comments on a conservative forum to hear their nonsense, I just have to remain quiet long enough around my mother for her to spontaneously spout some random right-wing boogie man story. I will attempt to explain how this is not a real thing to be concerned about and will also ask where she heard about it - she’ll then insist that it happens all the time and that she has first-hand knowledge.
It’s exhausting.
(Thankfully, I live at the other end of a long ferry ride, so these conversations are less frequent!)
No, you can not change them. They can change, but it has to be something they initiate on their own.
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i’m curious how you did it. i tried being nice, they’d just attack me.
i struggle to want to be nice to people who want me dead. who are loud about how i am lazy and stealing their tax dollars.
a former maga friend - someone who i was “nice” to until the one time i wasn’t, even though he was allowed to say all the shitty things he wanted - told me i was a waste of space. he verbally attacked me over my health issues knowing how sensitive a subject that is.
i don’t see them as people tbh. if me saying that validates their opinion that i’m evil, maybe they should start acting like people instead of monsters.
they also, as a group, tend to be more likely to be offending pedos, rapists, domestic abusers, and mass shooters. which for me reinforces the idea that they aren’t people.
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It really depends a lot on context and situation, ideally it’s someone you already have at least SOME passing acquaintance with so they give you a chance
okay, so this won’t work with all the social media maga telling me to kill myself.
i’ve done all those things as in person i don’t like being confrontational. yeah, it makes people adore me and say im the sweetest. never changes them though.
a little observation. your comment history says you’re a cis man. i think that might be part of why it’s been more effective for you to change minds. what you say has more weight.
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never said there aren’t terrible leftists. there are plenty. people in general are terrible.
statistically speaking, right wingers are worse. this is factual. don’t gaslight me.
i’m afraid of confrontation and i’m friendly enough that horrible people feel comfortably trauma-dumping on me, but they never feel comfortable changing.
i tend to be a pretty validating person and they love that. but the one time i call them out on something they need to do better, their defenses go up. no one is actually interested in being a good person, they just want to be told they’re a good person.
i’m disabled and i get assigned caregivers from a local agency. a caregiver casually told me she’s a pedophile (trump supporter too btw). people are too comfortable around me.
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Being polite to them has worked out really well so far!
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You don’t “be polite” you be a person who can be social, listen and ask questions and read someone’s feelings.
That is literally what being polite is. I have been polite, and not started arguments with them for years by just politely disagreeing while they dial up their rhetoric and are now full on fascists.
The examples of people who spend years convincing a handful of people are overblown while MAGA numbers increase exponentially.
You are saying we have to be all Kitty Soft Paws with them to avoid hurting their feelings. That didn’t work before at any scale, and it certainly won’t work now. Now is the time to be blunt and point out they voted for this shit and that their anti immigration stuff is racist and that their opposition to DEI is based on them not understanding what it is.
They spew hate constantly, it is time to push back. Fuck their feelings.
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People change all the time.
I have never in my life ever been prompted to apologize for being white, and am not aware of anyone in the US being asked or told to apologize for being white.
Same, where is this coming from? What are these people doing that they feel like they’re being expected to apologize for? It’s the racism isn’t it?
Racism is their identity.
i think it’s more that they think they’re being asked to apologize for benefiting from systemic racism rather than being asked to acknowledge and correct it. if systemic racism is real then it means that all their success is tainted and fake, and since their social and economic status forms the basis of their self-identity, it reads to them as an attack on the validity of their own self-image. so, since they’re racist they try to make it about their race instead of their racism.
Clarence Thomas should apologize for being white.
White dude here… Who the fuck is apologizing for being white? Why do they keep saying this and what’s the point? I’ve never felt the need nor have I ever experienced anyone else needing to apologize for their being white or any other race. What does the right go through that make them feel like they would ever need to apologize for being white because me and all my friends are liberal and thats just not a fucking thing. Do they think it is? I have nothing but questions and none of them even make sense to ask so I can’t imagine a sensible answer being given.
It’s the classic “If you’re used to privilege, equality feels like oppression.” Guys like that and who votes for him want to be pampered and advantaged always. Giving others the same chances is thus classified under the dog whistle “apologizing die being white.”
We will chalk up white guys apologizing right along with all those people trying to cancel Christmas.
They can’t attack others unless they’re seen as victims first. It’s really fucking stupid, but the morons that voted for them eat it up- so, it’s effective.
I occasionally apologize for being white when I roll up my pants legs in direct sunlight, but I don’t think that’s what he’s talking about.
No, no. I think you’re on to something here. I do this too.
Omg did you even say thank you?
They’re to moronic to realize we can just not be racist assholes, no need to apologize for our ancestors that were.
They want a culture war to prevent a class war.
Always.
It’s the same reason Democrats harp on social issues.
Allows the ruling parties to present the appearance of working while doing jack shit for the scant four months out of the year they’re actually “working”.
Exactly. In my opinion there is no social justice without economic justice. The two come together.
Yup. If you are a black dude, being able to afford a lawyer is key to getting your justice. Everyone needs economic resources to become their best selves and to defend against malice.
The pure focus on social issues lets the Democratic leadership to have plausible deniability for fucking over people. Being legally LGBTQ+ doesn’t matter, when you can’t afford HRT, third spaces, fund LGBT media, or to afford a ring for your beloved. People can’t fully express themselves in society, if they are confined to the burger flipping mines.
Actually, i’ve considered that economic justice automatically leads to social justice.
Consider this: In the US, lots of things are heavily looked down upon, such as having sex before marriage (if you are in the unfortunate situation to have grown up in a christian area), but if you can earn money with it (e.g. onlyfans), your parents/neighbors might let you get away with it. After all, if you’re making money with it, surely you must be doing something right. Money rules, after all.
This is an example where economic prosperity actually leads to social liberty. It’s messed up, but i’ve actually seen this example happen. It might work.
Why did I feel a need to check if this was an actual quote?
Because we do not live in a sane timeline
Every time in the last few years I thought it was a joke it ends up having even worse context than the quote by itself. I was actually wondering if this was an old quote as it seems like something he said whole campaigning last year.
“In the United States of America you don’t have to apologize for being white supremacists anymore.”
There was one word missing from the image. Fixed it.
You don’t have to apologize for being white anymore!
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Apologize to my wife you fucking racists!
Fuck this guy.
Playing the victim, I see.
I never had to apologize for being white…
Don’t fall for it, friends. It’s division for politics sake.
Never once in my 49 years of being white have I had to apologize for it
The meme forgot to mention tax cuts for the ultra wealthy. No republican policy is complete without those.
Yeah… the unnecessary and inhumane suffering of the white man has absolutely gone on for far too long! It’s not just that they-and-they-alone have only been allowed to have MOST of the nice things, they are activity being denied ALL of the nice things!
No more! says Vance!
White men (note the specificities here) demand and deserve to have all the things¹, all the time- and it absolutely must come at the expect of non-whites!
[¹] including couches, love seats, futons, chaise lounges, and foldaways.
i demand chesterfields! i demand camelbacks! lawsons for the lazy! english rollarms for the round! futons for the fat! loveseats for the lonely! cabrioles for me! davenports for dorks!
It’s certainly the expectation of theirs to socialize all of their accomplishments as a race to the point where your rural white guy that has done nothing in his life besides goon will say he’s better than a minority with a degree.
He lives in shithole, bible belt, but is quick to say africans still live in mud huts and that it’s a black race problem as to why.
It’s like they listen to Gob Bluth sing “It ain’t eeeeeasy being white” and un-ironically agree.
Does he have to apologize for fucking that couch?
