because hanging out with your co workers or boss still feels like work, and work sucks and is alienating
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This 💯
Not to misuse a term but it essentially feels like continued masking, it takes mental effort and is absolutely not relaxing.
My yearly work dinners with the company owners feel like a hostage event
Say the wrong thing, be unemployed for years. Sounds like a great time.
Probably through the trauma-bonding, I became good friends with many of my coworkers and we’d occasionally hang out, sans boss.
So it wound up hurting on a surprisingly emotional level when a round or two of burnout chased off so many work-friends I’d known for years. We’ve all been so busy at our respective jobs now, it kinda sucks.
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the thing that made work enjoyable
consuming alcohol
Nah mate
I’m not about to work a entire shift then spend hours worth of my money on watered down drinks all the while trying not to overshare with people I tepidly tolerate.
I feel so seen.
Drinking with work people has never worked out for me and only served to make work more annoying. The closer to blue coller work and “unskilled” work you get the more enjoyable that was. The closer to white coller office work, the less enjoyable.
That’s just my experience though. Regardless, I don’t drink anymore anyway.
I think this is totally right. If you’re in a “white collar job” then the dynamic has the potential for backbiting and power games (so the drinking becomes networking, work, etc) versus being fully clocked out
People used to relish getting sloshed with their colleagues after work. What happened?
No they didn’t.
One out of 10 people did. 8 went with it because they had to. 1 would just do their own thing instead and only managed to keep their job if they were better at it than the others.
Yet another fucking article that blames a younger generation for killing a “tradition” / “killing the vibe” on something was mostly bullshit to begin with.
Excuse me while I get my tiniest violin out.
Bars are fucking expensive?
People have commitments and responsibilities in their personal life and can’t get drunk all the time?
People are driving and can’t get drunk?
people aren’t going to bars because there’s a pandemic, right?
How can people afford to drink in bars even semi-regularly? A happy hour pint is still $6 and most of the “happy hours” are only on during work hours or later in the evening
Yeah because 40 years ago if you went drinking with your idiot boss and pretended to laugh at his jokes about Italians there was a chance you’d get a promotion. Nowadays there’s no point in sucking up, no one’s getting anything out of it. Your job is precarious and your boss probably doesn’t even know who you are.
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but I was also able to maintain most of my friends from middle school, high school, and college while also having hobby-specific friend
what the fuck dark wizardry is this
They might still be in their 20s and everyone hasn’t moved away or had kids yet.
Different strokes. I’m pushing 40 and still have my core group of friends from elementary/high school and my group from undergrad. Most of us have kids too. Then again, I can count all of them with just two hands. We truly view each other as an extended family.
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I also have never really felt the appeal of needing to make work friends or socialize hard with people from work
this will lead to communism
I get you’re taking the piss, but isn’t work under the western neoliberal service economy especially isolating? Not many people are working closely with a consistent set of people who all live in the same local area. Not saying you shouldn’t socialize with people at work though, please do that. Fight the atomizing forces of capital.
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Depends very much on who and what kind of job. When I delivered pizzas, a pint with the other drivers was a nice unwind - complain about work, talk sports, eat some snacks.
I’ve also enjoyed colleague drink nights with my fellow teachers, though it’s a bit more subdued, especially when the boss joins in.
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Isnt drinking a lot less common among younger people in general? Seems like a good thing to me.
Yeah they mention that Gen Z drinks significantly less, you also have to assume people need to be financially stable to spend a couple hundred dollars a month at weekly bar nights.
Drink at lunch.
Problem solved.
I like going to happy hour and drinking with my coworkers.
Back when I worked at a restaurant, we’d go out to someones place and drink, smoke, and the like. But now I work in an office, and offices are isolating by design and desire, so there’s no real opportunity
Was gonna say, I hang out with some of my co workers on my off days and also have started jamming with some now that I have an electric kit and a bunch of practice amps and can jam at a reasonable apartment volume. But I work in a kitchen and one that has managed to retain staff super well. Our newest person has been here for 2 years.
Offices still have this culture, they just hide it under faux professionalism. I learned a coworker grows weed and they offered me an ounce, learned about some affairs. It’s all there
I learned my officemate is a reddit bro, and at least it means I can do memes IRLl
Even if I go with coworkers I don’t know as well, I can still have a good time. Learn about parts of the company I don’t work under, hear gossip, create gossip. I don’t even go a lot, like once every 2-3 months, it’s totally worth it.
Because I’m too busy having a life outside of work to go to Work 2
