• MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca
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    The only people it makes sense to, for Canada becoming a US state, is the people in the USA.

    We have land and resources they need, that we are happy to sell them, year over year.

    Also, just to mention, the dairy thing? Yeah, that’s on dairy products beyond a certain cap. It’s there to encourage the use of Canadian dairy, instead of relying on foreign dairy… You know, so our dairy farmers don’t go broke.

    Looking at the records, that import limit has been hit… Carry the one… Yeah, exactly zero times.

    🖕

    Sincerely,

    • Canada
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        I guess he’s also admitting to his desire of never having any new elections? As Canada would get like over 50 seats in the electoral college…

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        That’s fair. There’s still sensible people in the USA.

        I was a little unclear before, the set of people who think this makes sense is entirely within the set of people in the USA. Which doesn’t and shouldn’t imply that all people in the USA believe that this makes sense.

        I apologize if there was any implication of lumping all Americans into the same pool of stupidity. That’s an insult to you and I am sorry.

        Have a good day neighbor.

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          Nah we’re good. I totally get the intent and point. And I’m one of the ones hit by the electricity thing. Sucks, but y’all have to fight back.

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            Sorry about that. I’m not far from the border at Niagara falls and I know how much power is sent over the lines across the Niagara River (generally)… It’s not great, and I’m sorry you have been caught in the crossfire here.

            You don’t want this, I can assure you, we don’t want this, but it’s what is happening.

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          I don’t even think the people who voted for Trump had annexing Canada on their minds when filling out their ballots. Was it mentioned once during the campaign? I wasn’t listening, I knew I wasn’t gonna vote for him 9 years ago.

          I mean, until last month when cross-border relations got kicked in the teeth by the diaper in chief, what did I need the State of Canada for? I had the Nation of Canada right there. It’s not like we weren’t hugely cooperative trade partners or anything.

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            To be clear, the people who want this are the American capitalists who stand to profit off of Canada’s natural resources. If we were a US state it would be much easier, almost downright trivial, to move up here and take whatever they want.

            Obviously, Canada, and Canadians, don’t want that, and it would seem most of the US population doesn’t either.

            IMO, this seems like a move by the people who are puppeteering Trump around. They see an opportunity to exploit what is currently a sovereign nation, and they’re going for using Trump as little more than a mouthpiece for their goals.

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        I literally thought it was another one of his stupid speaking mistakes, like when he suggested bleach/UV inside the body (he was just repeating some stuff he didn’t understand badly, and iirc he didn’t keep harping on it). Kinda surprised to see he was serious about it, it makes no sense to me either.

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        Canada would never be state. A territory of unending insurgency at best, until the US killed every last one of us.

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        From a trade/foreign policy perspective, no, it makes no sense. From a long term growth of the USA perspective, it makes a lot of sense. As the Earth heats up, the equator will become less habitable, and the poles will become more habitable. Canada and Greenland have a low population density because of their northern climate, they have resources that are un-extracted because it is not economical to pay someone to live on-site. Every year it gets warmer, and that land becomes more valuable.

        For the record, I’m not against Canada becoming a new State, but I am against using military or economic strong-arming to sway that decision.

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      Conservative Americans in shambles reading this as they find out that we do Infact own guns in Canada and are proud to own them. We just don’t get all fucking pussy about not being able to own fully automatic ones with 50 round magazines lol.

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        Liberal American here, for a long time conservatives here have miscalculated how well armed many of us are. The anti-gun crowd (not to be confused with gun control) are just the vocal minority on the issue, giving the impression that liberals hate guns. My gun safe begs to differ, and I own more guns than any conservative I know.

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      Say it louder; get disqualified from gun ownership. You’re not allowed to own guns because you think one day you might shoot people with them.

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        I GOT A GUN TO SO I CAN HUNT ANIMALS BECAUSE LEARNING TO PUT FOOD ON THE TABLE AND SHARING FOOD IS HOW WE ARE GOING TO GET THROUGH THE NEXT FOUR YEARS.

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        Home and/or personal defense are perfectly valid reasons for gun ownership. I don’t want to use my gun on a person but I absolutely purchased it because I think I may have to someday.

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    The only thing that makes sense is for Trump and Musk to take a rocket car to Mars.

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      I recently met two Albertans out here in South Korea at a bar. They were on the other side of the bar from me, and when they walked past, I greeted them as an Ontarian and offered to shake their hands. They both declined the handshake and proudly announced, “We’re not on the same team.”

      That was a few weeks ago. I’m still disturbed by it. I knew Albertans had a reputation because of the politicking there. But I hadn’t realized it would be so blatant. That same night, two South Africans happily asked me my thoughts on Trump, and I was perhaps too honest in my first statement, and they grew upset with me and insisted he was good for Canadians and South Africans, both.

      I left the bar not long after. Haven’t seen those four come back, so there is a bright side to the story, at least.

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        They refused to shake your hand because you are from Ontario? What the heck… they need mental health care.

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        Lol they should fucking stay in South Korea. They are definately in the minority, it’s a larger minority then most of Canadas opinion but goddamn they are still a minority. Should have told them to never fucking come back

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          No, I don’t want them here, haha. This is my future home, I don’t need that nonsense here! It’s also my friend’s bar, so I don’t particularly want to ruin business for him. But I did talk with him about it later.

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        Hope those 4 are already on their planes home after their bosses realized they hired trash.

        If you have to share space with them again, may I suggest bringing up what it’s like being a “migrant worker in Korea”? Groceries are a little different, you miss your oven maybe, the usual foreigner small talk, but keep using the term migrant worker (or temporary foreign worker, for those racist Canucks). When they correct you with the term “expat” - as their beliefs dictate they must - ask them to explain the difference and don’t let up when they deflect. Insta explody heads every time.

        I’m really sorry that happened to you (and anyone else in the bar who had to witness it). Even more sorry that Korea keeps getting the dregs whose only marketable skill is their ability to speak their own language. Guaranteed, each of those assholes has at least 1 dramatic story about how really racist Koreans are against white people though (like, my coworkers weren’t impressed that I can eat hot sauce, a woman wouldn’t give up her seat on the bus when it was was obvious my feet hurt, nobody cares I can do the Gagnam Style dance, where’s the Korean wife I was promised, etc).

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        My friends from Alberta are not like that. But they did get banned from Canadian Tire during covid, since they are native.

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        That’s not what is happening. I know it’s upsetting that there are people who believe differently than you do. That’s what this article is about: that there exist people with some truly upsetting opinions, and furthermore, that we know a bit about their demographic make up.

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          The more you platform them the more voice and visibility they get, which ends up drawing support for this 51st nonsense. I don’t care to learn about the ignorant mindset of traitorous pieces of shit. They should stop voting for policies and parties that privilege the rich. But they’re too dumb for even that.

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            I don’t care to learn about the ignorant mindset of traitorous pieces of shit.

            How the fuck else do you hope to… no, never mind. We’re not having a discussion, you’re just making emotional expressions. But I will say that this model of yours that says people do these things because they are stupid or “dumb” might help you cope emotionally, but it prevents you from reaching any genuine insight.

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              But I will say that this model of yours that says people do these things because they are stupid or “dumb” might help you cope emotionally, but it prevents you from reaching any genuine insight.

              I’m not the person you were responding to but I just wanted to make perfectly clear that you are 100% full of shit.

              It doesn’t give anyone ANY measure of “cope” that so many people are fucking stupid. Its terrifying, despairing, and awful. I would rather delusionally believe I could convince them of rational stances, now that would be cope.

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                You should probably… idk, actually read what they said.

                Treating everyone you disagree with like they’re stupid is coping emotionally. Instead of taking the time to, idk discuss things with people they’ve written them off as dumb before they ever speak to them.

                Yes, approaching discourse this way and believing that you can achieve any kind of middle ground is delusional.

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                  Treating everyone you disagree with like they’re stupid is coping emotionally. Instead of taking the time to, idk discuss things with people they’ve written them off as dumb before they ever speak to them.

                  You don’t know fuck all how much I’ve done precisely that. I obsessively debated various political and economic ideologies for like a straight decade of my life in invite-only forums specifically designed for such debate. I changed my own mind over time, and changed other people’s minds. I’ve done it.

                  But I promise you, the people supporting these ideas proposed by the Trump administration are not just stupid, but WILLINGLY IGNORANT for their own selfish purposes. The amount coursing hatred I feel for them burns like the accretion disc of a quasar.

                  They are not people I would bother to debate. They are quite literally just my enemy. Mortal enemies. I don’t want middle ground with them. I want something else.

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                  I can unequivocally say that anyone entertaining the idea of Canada as a state as a good idea - is a fucking tool. Yeah I’m going to write that off. There’s no middle ground with people too dumb to realize they would be much worse off in that scenario.

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            There is a very important difference between “platforming” and “reporting” and you really should to learn what it is before you start policing people.

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              Platforming is perhaps the wrong term, maybe “selective reporting” and “cherry picking” fits better.

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    Trump and Republicans trying to convince Canada they’ll be treated well while they’re pissing all over their colony in DC right in front of everyone.

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    I can’t think of a single troop I’ve ever met who’s had it out for Canada, quite the opposite. This whole thing is coming from one person and he didn’t campaign on it at all. This makes as much sense to Canadians as it does to Americans. No one asked for this, not even the mouth-breathing Trumpers.

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    The dumbest part of the 51st state nonsense, is Canada is very left leaning (compared to the US, even their right wing would probably be considered on par with Democrats here imo). Making Canada the 51st state would ensure he never wins an election again, but it seems like he’s not too worried about the whole election thing moving forward. I guess when you gut CISA, and probably stole the '24 election you aren’t worried about getting votes…

    Also, the land mass of Canada would have to make it like 10 more states. It’s already 10 provinces. It’s just ridiculous.

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      is Canada is very left leaning

      Idk, this election is very close for a Poilievre win. Pretty sure the Fox News propaganda machine would do its magic in no time.

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        I don’t think anyone there wants to abandon their free healthcare, but you never know with these smooth brain conspiracy people.

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    But not Puerto Rico, Guam, Washington DC (at least voting rights) or any other territory that has been essentially part of the country but probably is full of brown people so they don’t get the upgrade.

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    Thing is, Canada doesn’t want to be apart of the USA. That should tell you a ton about the state of the union. Maybe adopt the advantages the Canadians have over us? Then they might be accepting of joining.

    But Canadians are proud and love their country sovereignty. They will fight to protect it. Why start a war over nothing?

    Fuck Trump and anyone who supports this stupid fuck.

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    we should increase export taxes on all fronts to the US, until they agree to stop this bullshit 51st state crap etc.

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      I think there should be a ratcheting structure, like an additional 5.1% everytime it’s mentioned publicly by his regime.

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      Automatic export tax for the US goes up by 100% each time their Orange Mussolini or one of his underlings says it.