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Isn’t whatsapp another data mining app for Facebook?
Yes
I guess I’ll never know what the kids are saying ever again because there’s no way I’m installing either of those apps.
This is news? The article’s own graph puts this about 6 years ago
My family has a signal group. I started it two years ago.
Almost no one pays any attention to it, unless they accidentally open the app once a month, but they’re all still there and can be spoken to.
I put a PSA out a month ago that I’ll no longer respond on Facebook Messenger or SMS after the turn of the year. Tough shit. There was some groaning but, if there’s no other way, either use Signal or invest in a Pigeon coop and get training.
There was some groaning but, if there’s no other way, either use Signal or invest in a Pigeon coop and get training.
Any particular reason you are abandoning SMS? Any particular reason for the strict rule?
RCS ain’t universal. I only have it with some iPhone users and the rare Pixel.
If it’s what’s for dinner, I don’t care. Musk can know I had some hamburger steak.
If it’s the code to your tablet, mom, ask on Signal.
I think teens abandoned Facebook like 10 years ago
Surely longer ago than that? Facebook hasn’t been cool for probably over 15 years
It went downhill when poking and sheep throwing went away.
Poking is still there. I’m trying to bring it back.
I never stopped
Has FB been cool since they got rid of signups limited by .edu email addresses?
That was basically the end. When it was only friends and the feed sorted by “new,”, it was super fun. When my aunts started joining it became much less fun.
the feed sorted by “new,”
Yeah, and it went from “let’s just add some stuff” to outright “we will force feed you this slop and you will like it” from there. It felt like you were a goose being prepped for Christmas’ foie gras.
No, because that’s when the olds took it over.
That’s when it was cool to teens who didn’t have .edu emails addresses (but not long after).
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“In the beginning:”
Facebook was a MySpace alternative for “academics” (college students / alums) instead of teens.
LinkedIn was a MySpace alternative for “professionals” instead of teens.
Forums were an evolution of BBSs that predated “social” media because it wasn’t you, it was an avatar, a fake persona you created rather than “first name,” “last name.”
ICQ and Skype were purely chat platforms, competing in a completely different space.
I have no idea what point this rant is trying to make but all the comparisons between services are way off base.
but all the comparisons between services are way off base.
My experience in Russia. No, they are not off base. Just naturally there are different PoVs and for you it may be something entirely else. You can think about that before saying something is wrong.
MySpace
Say, I’m not sure many people even knew of that where I am.
Forums were an evolution of BBSs that predated “social” media because it wasn’t you, it was an avatar, a fake persona you created rather than “first name,” “last name.”
People using real names in the Web were the weird ones, but it was normal to meet IRL those you know via forums.
I have no idea what point this rant is trying to make
Your failure, not mine.
Because Whatsapp is totally not owned by FB.
It’s not about why owns it. It’s about where young people can be without getting bothered by their parents and other old people.
I’m 41…you telling me the kids today don’t think of me as the greatest person who ever existed??? Pssshhh that’s malarkey! I won’t hear of it! EVERYONE thinks I’m the greatest person who ever existed! My lexicon includes words like “malarkey” and “lexicon”! Kids think that’s cool right???
Clearly you young people are fine being on Lemmy with old people
I’m 39 so I am slightly more rizz than you. I maintain my levels of brat by regularly updating my skibidi vocab.
Yo, your lexicon is making my malarkey happy
That’s about phone number requirement for signup. Not about platforms.
OK. Life is life.
I’ve just had a traumatic memory of one young person, a girl (with possibly undiagnosed ASPD), from 13 years ago.
Feel nausea and want to throw up every time thinking about that kind of places, dynamics, emotions.
Where there any teens on Twitter? Last I was there it was full of angry middle-age men.
before musk came it was pretty full, most of them have moved to threads
Ah, the curse of algorithmic social network. It’s full of angry middle-aged men if you follow those / interact with them. There are / were big communities formed around various pop stars on Twitter and those are quite different demographics.
It’s pretty clear. Facebook is now full of crap created by artificial intelligence (and not only).
Tiktok is as well.
Weird, considering facebook does all the shit those other sites do.
People go where their friends are. Their grandparents are on Facebook.
That is a weird way of describing it. Teens aren’t “abandoning” FB & X; they never signed up to begin with. And why would that? They are platforms built for and filled with millennials+.
A decade ago is when teens stopped using Facebook, unless they’re counting Instagram in those metrics?
Look at the graph in the article: it’s the only newsworthy piece. Assuming the numbers are legit, the lines crossed about 6 years ago.
Of course the x axis not having any labeled points there doesn’t fill me with confidence. Perhaps it’s just two points for each and they drew a straight line
then they would have to count WhatsApp too…
Okay? But what does Whatsapp has anything to do with the other? DM?
I don’t consider WhatsApp social media.
WhatsApp has channels (public feeds centered around topics, a bit like microblogging), communities (groups about a subject, much like Facebook Groups), and updates (temporal video/photo statuses to share with your friends). You might only use it for DM, but it has much bigger aspirations.
Ok, I feel old. The only reason facebook has any relevance to me is the market place. What’s the best alternative?
Craigslist, cash converters
It might be that I’m looking at this from a US perspective. Craig’s list has been a bit rough when I’ve tried it. Scammy and shadier people. I hope you’ve had better experiences here than me.
I found cash converters out of the UK. Is that correct? It seemed comparable to a pawn shop at first glance.
That’s just it, Facebook is kinda the default option, and almost everyone has an account there. It’s why so many clubs arrange everything through a Facebook page.
WhatsApp? The instant messenger boomers use on their phones?
Damn, who saw that coming.
Yeah, the other instant messenger owned by Facebook
american, right? It’s very popular in other places.
Spotted the iMessage user who routinly cries about dot colour
Weird that this is your association as using it would require an iPhone which most youth don’t have. My thought was Telegram, which is omnipresent at least around me, with Whatsapp often being kept just for the parents or older relatives.
“an iPhone which most youth dont have”
i see you dont live in north america
telegram is for pedos and this one guy i know uses it and i question his motives
No, it’s used by just about everyone. Generally the younger the person and the bigger their city, the more likely they are to travitate towards Telegram rather than Whatsapp.
I know alot of people in my city and its one of the biggest in north america and they have never heard of it.
telegram is one of the worst, privacy wise.
I know, and it’s terrible that it’s so unavoidable. I managed to avoid Whatsapp, but without Telegram managing university life would be incredibly hard.
In most of Europe WhatsApp is synonymous with text messaging.
Also in South Asia and the Middle East.
Most countries stopped using SMS ages ago. WhatsApp, Signal and Telegram are ubiquitous.
I WISH signal was ubiquitous. Half of my friends are still using Facebook Messenger so I still have to resort to using SMS for them
Belgian?
Is Belgium known for using Messenger?
I thought so, but that might be 10 years ago and in Flanders, so… 🤷♂️
SMS for everybody not on a self-hostable encrypted messenger. Why fool oneself into thinking a US managed messenger is private?
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well Facebook still owns them and will own them when they all switch to instagram reels like America wants them to do
