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The Picard Maneuver@lemmy.world to Gaming@lemmy.worldEnglish · 7 months ago

Was the FF black mage the first to do this?

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Was the FF black mage the first to do this?

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The Picard Maneuver@lemmy.world to Gaming@lemmy.worldEnglish · 7 months ago
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  • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world
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    First was Orko from He-Man.

    • Encephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win
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      Marvin the Martian from Looney Tunes youngling!

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        Not a wizard.

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          Any significantly advanced science is indistinguishable from magic.

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            If his science was sufficiently advanced it would’ve been able to produce an earth-shattering kaboom.

        • Encephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win
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          Is a wizard someone that uses magic?

          • Floodedwomb@lemmy.world
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            It’s definitely not an alien using a disintegration ray.

            • Encephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win
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              So a wizard isn’t someone that uses magic? What is your definition of Wizard?

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                I’ll have to ponder on that.

      • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world
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        Marvin didn’t have the wizard hat.

        • Encephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win
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          How dare you project your limited idea of what a wizard hat is on Marvin!

        • Klear@lemmy.world
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          7 months ago

          He did, but only in bed.

      • BluesF@lemmy.world
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        I think he just has a small very dark coloured head. He’s not just eyes in shadow in a hood, he has a round head… it’s just black.

        • Encephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win
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          Marvin the Martian

          • BluesF@lemmy.world
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            Ok not small, but yes, it’s a ball not a void imo

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            Sufficiently advanced technology.

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      They’re not wizards, but did Jawas from Star Wars establish the aesthetic?

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        Seems like Jawas were the first in ~1977. The fandom wiki says that LucasArts sued Neil Young for having Jawa-like creatures on stage in 1978.

        Pics: https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/38119-neil-young-crazy-horse-rust-never-sleeps/images/posters

        • CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world
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          Marvin the Martian beat that by almost 30 years.

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        Jawas didn’t wear the wizard hat. Same reason Marvin doesn’t fit.

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          Looking at the picture above, hoods seem to count. If not, then half of them don’t apply to the rule.

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      Thank you, was looking to see if someone recognized the OG.

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      7 months ago

      Came in here to defend Orko’s legacy. Was not disappointed.

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    https://he-man.fandom.com/wiki/Orko

    Orko from He-Man in 1986

    • Rob T Firefly@lemmy.world
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      Shout-out to my fellow 1980s kids who played the first Final Fantasy and named their Black Mage character “ORKO” because it just felt right.

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      Jawas, 1977.

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        Agree on the “hooded void with eyes” part, but “mage”?

        They were scavengers…

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          The visual archetype existed before anyone decided it meant Tolkein-ripoff wizard.

          The modern concept of a “mage” barely existed before D&D solidified a bunch of high-fantasy tropes in the late 70s.

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            Hmm… I likely disagree as wizards, mages etc are peppered throughout literature long before d&d came along , but I feel it probably comes down to either of our interpretations of what the term “modern concept of a ‘mage’” is referring to…

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    Shout out to Vivi! Love you my little homie.

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      He taught us so much about facing death with dignity.

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    TIL Jawas are wizards.

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      They’re artificers

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    It is truly a great style.

    (Player character from Wizard of Legend)

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    Where’s my boy Green Mage?

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      I’m sorry, seems that it’s not his time

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    Digimon: “We have eyes-only wizard at home.”

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      I swear to god if you speak ill of Wizardmon I will beat you senseless with a two-by-four

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        Does he (?) evolve into, like, a Mecha toaster or something?

        Or digi-volve or whatever they do in digimon

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    I’m not familiar with the meme template and didn’t see the wizards at first, so initially I thought it’s racist af.

    Now I fully agree though. FFT did it best imo.

    • The Picard Maneuver@lemmy.worldOP
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      Oh my god, that never even crossed my mind, but I see how you could have thought that.

      Yes, this is just a popular meme format!

      • The Pantser@lemmy.world
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        It’s ok, some people see racism in everything. It’s hard just being human if you have to constantly second guess everything just incase it might seem racist. It’s only racist if it was intentional.

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          Meh, hard disagree. Outright intentional racism (and of other forms of hate) are terrible, but at least they’re openly visible.

          The more dangerous form is the everyday unintentional ingrained beliefs that people have even against their core values, like how I am more impressed by a female programmer or the way I at first misread that meme.

          It’s those that are more widespread and make it so much harder to eradicate the openly intentional hate.

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        Yeah it didn’t help that I was half asleep. Just found it funny enough to be shared; of course didn’t wanna imply anything.

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    Haven’t played League of Legends in awhile but haven’t forgot about Veigar

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      I’m glad I broke the addiction, but damn I still miss League. Late game Veigar was really fun. Good thing it doesn’t work on Linux any more.

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      What’s black and blue and about to show you the definition of pain!?

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      This little shit…

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    I AM THE BLACK MAGE! I CASTS THE SPELLS THAT MAKES THE PEOPLES FALL DOWN!

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      I like swords.

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    unnamed main character from splodey

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    I remember someone trying to tell me Vivi in FF9 was genderless and all I could think of was the scene where he and Zidane literally whip their dicks out and piss off a cliff.

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      Genitals might not equal gender though!

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    Orko

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    What’s the mid right one with the light blue robe and beige hat?

    I recognize him but fail to remember from where

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      Vivi - Final Fantasy IX

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        More generally, it’s a Black Mage from the Final Fantasy series, of which Vivi is one.

        I actually don’t believe the one in OP’s picture is Vivi, who normal has more adornments on his clothing . It looks more like an older version of the class, like this one from FFIV artwork.

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    Wizard/witch hats do it for me every time

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      Faceless void gf where you at

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