#quietpartoutloud

  • @Letme@lemmy.world
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    503 hours ago

    Wow! The year is 2024, and the Republican candidate is running his platform on genetic cleansing. I did not-see this coming, who could have possibly predicted it?

  • It’s so sad so many will brush this off.

    I cant be more ashamed then I am of my fellow country men. I knew shit was wrong growing up. I did my best to stay out of their way but to see it so clearly in their politics I just can’t anymore. Americans are a ravenous people. We harbor them. We protect them. That is what we are.

    Eugenics getting freely discussed by a presidential candidate. Shame on me. Shame on all of us.

    • @skeezix@lemmy.world
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      52 hours ago

      It’s nice to hear when someone realizes that Trump is not the problem, he’s the symptom incurred by a mental disease that so many people seem to have.

      • Many of us are plagued with the “not us” syndrome. They hear about the awful events that shape our history and say, “not us, not here, we are better.” Deep down we have to believe that but when you become so delusional that all you can say when faced with any truth about the world around you is “not us” you’ve got a problem.

  • peopleproblems
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    213 hours ago

    I don’t fucking get the right.

    “Evolution is evil it says we’re monkeys!”

    “Genetics means we can have better blood lines!”

    • @Thorry84@feddit.nl
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      They don’t actually understand any of those things. They just think white skin, blue eyes and blond hair equals Uber mensch and thus the divine right to rule the world. And just like the Nazis, the fact that most of them don’t actually conform to the qualifications they dream up is beyond them. That’s why you see those pictures of Trump as a muscular Jesus, they are very detached from reality.

      • peopleproblems
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        32 hours ago

        Right, but that’s the crazy part.

        In their mind I’m genetically superior, but only because of my appearance. Then if I come out and say “but I’m not genetically superior” they get pissed off because yes I am and I’m a traitor.

        How can they possibly be comfortable with stating one thing both is and is not good?

        • rustydomino
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          42 hours ago

          Their goal is not to be logically consistent. Their goal is to make you subservient.

        • @Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          It’s funnier cause they claim blue eyes are superior when in most of the world it isn’t, especially when the world is heating up more and more and we have less ice and snow.

            • @Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              It’s a thing that’s being studied but apparently it’s also true for reindeer which turn their eyes blue during the winter to help them see better in low light conditions and brown in the summer when there’s better lighting.

              • peopleproblems
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                Ha, man, I thought I was crazy, I had no idea. My ancestry was largely from northern Europe - but my Dad did a lot of astronomy and typically had me find things for him when we were out in the field. He always said “because you see things better than me” which I thought was absolute horseshit because I’m near sighted and he’s farsighted.

                Maybe I did because my blue eyes actually helped a bit.

              • @Zozano@lemy.lol
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                Its basically also why people closer to the equator have darker skin.

                • Too much sun = skin cancer
                • Too little sun = vitamin D deficiency
                • Too little melanin = skin cancer prone skin
                • Too much melanin = needs vitamin D supplements in the Arctic winter.
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                  Melanin. Melatonin is the chemical that makes you sleepy

                  I can’t tan. It’s the worst. I just burn.

  • "You have seen people in this courtroom, you have seen them at this trial, you have met them in your life, have every reason to respect them, to love them, to appreciate them, except that maybe one of their ancestors going back and back and back to where perhaps they had ten thousand ancestors, and one of them was black or partly black, and he has to be a hewer of wood and drawer of water and all of his generation, to the end of time to be cursed that way by those who think their blood is pure.

    Of course, the marvel of it is that there is not any such thing as pure blood.

    How far can you go back in yours, how far can I go back in mine? I knew who my father was and who my mother was, and I know who all four of my grandparents were, but when I get back of that I am lost in obscurity and night. I know they came from New England. I hate to admit it, but they did,–pure Nordic.

    MR. TOMS: New England Nordic?

    MR. DARROW: New England Nordic. Isn’t it awful? I know it. I had to bear it and get along with it the best I could for all these years. For all I know they may have been related to Jonathan Edwards. From there they go back to England, but what of it? Gentlemen, I don’t know where they came from back of that or that far, and I know that back of me and back of you is an infinite ancestry stretching away back at least five hundred thousand years, and we are made up of everything on the face of the earth, of all kinds and colors and degrees of civilization, and out of that come we.

    Who are we, any of us, to be boastful above our fellows?"

    Clarence Darrow, Esq., in the successful closing argument in defense of Ossian Sweet

    • @captainlezbian@lemmy.world
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      That’s not blood libel. Blood libel is the obviously false claim that Jews eat christian babies, often in the form of Passover matzoh. It has modern descendants like claims that “they” are turning your kids trans and if you get deeper you see those quotation marks turn into echo marks.

      This is eugenics. It’s also Nazi ass bullshit, but it’s one Americans have far more blood on our hands with. A hundred years ago we in the United States were openly engaging in forced sterilization of minorities and disabled people and in doing so inspiring the German right. We still haven’t tamped out eugenic sterilization here, even when it was widely agreed to be the horrendous crime against bodily autonomy that it is. This is fucking terrifying as far as rhetoric goes

  • @Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world
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    “Many of them murdered far more than one person,” Trump declared. “A murderer, I believe this, it’s in their genes. And we got a lot of bad genes in our country right now.”

    And he will still be normalized as a presidential candidate by this evenings news and by the country on election day.

    I guess it’s that time of day to come to grips that the USA is ok with this.

    • @grue@lemmy.world
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      51 hour ago

      I guess it’s that time of day to come to grips that the USA is ok with this.

      Absolutely fucking not!

      It is literally a matter of life and death that we not only stay mad about this, but get a Hell of a lot madder than we already are!

    • @skeezix@lemmy.world
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      41 hour ago

      come to grips that the USA is ok with this.

      “This” is what happens when a society has no hope. A brutal side effect of economic policy and fleecing of the population over the past 30 years. People turn to religion and strong men for succour. They are swayed by bullshit and manipulated to serve the interests of the powerful.

    • @Arn_Thor@feddit.uk
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      153 hours ago

      NYT tomorrow: “Harris under fire for [placeholder] after controversial Trump radio interview”

    • @bitjunkie@lemmy.world
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      The majority of us most certainly are NOT; the sane ones are just underrepresented in our archaic voting system.

    • Atelopus-zeteki
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      FYI, I’m not ok with this. Tho’ I’m glad he’s saying the ‘quiet part out loud’, so that there can be no question on the importance of voting him and the rest of the GOP down in this election.

    • @KoboldCoterie@pawb.social
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      608 hours ago

      I guess it’s that time of day to come to grips that the USA is ok with this.

      A relatively small subset of people are okay with this as long as it continues to keep them in power and make them rich, another small subset of people are okay with this as long as it continues to be targeted exclusively at people they don’t like, and a relatively large subset of people are victims of propaganda and media saturation. Let’s put the blame where it belongs.

      • Cyborganism
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        237 hours ago

        I don’t know if it’s a relatively small subset when there’s a fair chance he might be elected if people don’t go vote, or vote for a third party candidate.

        • @Wilzax@lemmy.world
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          Most of the people who vote for him will never be informed about the most appalling and repulsive things he says, because all their news comes filtered through media streams that are designed to prop up the conservative candidate, no matter who, and to discredit the facts that makes that candidate look bad.

          But even if everyone who voted for him knew he said these things, they would still be the minority of Americans, because he lost the popular vote in 2016.

          • Cyborganism
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            115 hours ago

            I’m not surprised. That’s how one of my best friends became an Andrew Tate and conservative supporter. YouTube algorithms got to him with these videos of cherry picked clips with comments from other supporters and his cohort of fraudulent assholes.

          • Cyborganism
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            I’m not surprised. That’s how one of my best friends became an Andrew Tate and conservative supporter. YouTube algorithms got to him with these videos of cherry picked clips with comments from other supporters and his cohort of fraudulent assholes.

        • @KoboldCoterie@pawb.social
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          87 hours ago

          That would be the large subset who are victims of propaganda. I refuse to believe that such a large percentage of the country would actually be as awful as they seem if it wasn’t for the propaganda machine doing its thing.

          • Cyborganism
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            55 hours ago

            You’d be surprised how our system turns people into sociopaths. It enables them and even rewards them.

            Just look at the richest people in our society and how most of them have sociopathic tendencies. They lack empathy.

          • snooggums
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            Lol, they buy into the propaganda because it aligns with their beliefs. They aren’t victims if blatant racist shit like this.

            Victims of the taxes too high propaganda, sure. But not this.

            • @Worx@lemmynsfw.com
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              45 hours ago

              … unless you’re saying it’s in their genes to be racist, then something convinced them that racism is correct. And that thing is a mixture of parents’ teaching and propaganda. And the parents got it from propaganda and their parents, etc.

              • snooggums
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                42 hours ago

                It is how they were raised and their life experiences that influence their worldview. But as adults, they should have learned better.

                Willful ignorance is their own fault.

          • TimLovesTech (AuDHD)(he/him)
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            76 hours ago

            Trump is currently controlling the largest cult outside of religion in the US. His core is going to take a long time to deprogram enough to return to society when he finally stops getting a platform to mobilize them all. Some of them were awful people before Trump, but so many everyday people got pulled into the cult through Fox or Facebook or Twitter and their conditioning keeps them loyal.

            I think contrary to at least some cult leaders, Trump has nothing but absolute disgust for his followers, and uses them solely to get him power and to grift so he can afford to keep the machine of hate going.

      • @krashmo@lemmy.world
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        76 hours ago

        You can talk about the reasons voters might be tricked, incentivized, propagandized, etc. into voting for Trump but at the end of the day they are making the decision to support this kind of thing of their own free will. Placing the blame somewhere else is easy. The hard part is coming to terms with the fact that the fundamental problem is not a shady group of billionaires gaming the system but rather a population too dumb and lazy to see those actions for what they are. That problem isn’t going away even if we get rid of all billionaires and enforce stricter truthfulness in broadcasting laws.

        I’m not denying it would get easier to manage if did those things but we have to recognize that the people you’re talking about are willing participants in this and not just victims being taken advantage of.

    • Cyborganism
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      137 hours ago

      If they want to look for these “bad genes”, all the Republicans have to do is look in a mirror.

  • Sheridan
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    798 hours ago

    NYT: “Did Trump say immigrants have ‘bad genes’? MOSTLY FALSE. Trump was actually critiquing immigrants’ choice in denim jeans.”

  • OhStopYellingAtMe
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    I can’t believe we’ve got a 50% chance that this racist motherfucker is going to be the next president.

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    Weird for a man such as Trump to equate crime with bad genes. How many felonies does he have again? It’d be interesting to see how this guy would have turned out if he was born poor

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      How many felonies does he have again?

      DrMoCrAt HoAx

      Magoos:

      Stupid gif isn’t playing and my lunch is ending, just imagine her nodding repeatedly in agreement lol :(

    • @xmunk@sh.itjust.works
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      Oh, I know. He must be talking about the bad genes of Elon Musk and the family history of labor abuse under apartheid and incest.

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    Damn, it sounds like he’s implying that we need to get rid of evangelical Christians - the largest crime committing block in America.

    (Obviously we shouldn’t get rid of any group based on such broad generalizations - he’s a fucking asshole).

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        This is the closest thing to a study on religion in prison I’ve ever found and the prisoner statistics are obscured by whether chaplains considered them extremist - the clearest piece of data is that 44% of chaplains (a plurality of them) are evangelicals. It’s a really shaky statistic though so I wouldn’t draw on it outside of dunking on idiocy from the GOP

        Study: https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2012/03/22/prison-chaplains-exec/

      • @bassomitron@lemmy.world
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        87 hours ago

        I’m assuming they mean that Christians make up a huge percentage of the US, so therefore they probably make up a large percentage of criminals. I’d be interested if evangelical Christians now make up the majority of Christians.