• Victor
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    What the fuck is this meme, honestly? What’s with all the femboy stuff? There’s so many ordinary people using Linux. I don’t get it. And there seems to be something against Arch Linux users in particular? I use Arch and have a wife and two kids. Am I not normal? Should I become a femboy, fellas?

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      First came programmer socks, then Rust was invented, and now (fe)men are taking matters into their own hands, correcting the gender gap in IT themselves. What’s not to understand here?

      Seriously tho, I don’t think it’s against anyone. It’s just a meme, probably originating from a high share of queer people in the IT domain and the rising popularity of anime and manga culture, where femboys are sometimes idealised.

      • @azertyfun@sh.itjust.works
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        It’s just a generational difference.

        The Gen Xers get really confused because to them a stereotypical “computer nerd” is (was) a greasy 35 year old in his mom’s basement which is covered in RMS posters who would unironically 741k l1k3 7h15.

        South Park WoW guy

        To us zoomers a stereotypical “computer nerd” is a proudly neuroatypical GNC queer with a body pillow of their waifu.

        Programming socks

      • Victor
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        I take it that’s why Linux users become femboys, because they “can’t get laid/are incels”. Maybe I’m misunderstanding the premise of the meme.

        • @reddithalation@sopuli.xyz
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          Nah it’s more about pointing out how groups of people that are into tech like linux, programming etc, seem to have a lot of lgbtq people. Anecdotally, I have seen a lot programming communities with an oddly large number of lgbtq people in them.

          • Victor
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            I see. Well, I don’t appreciate that it seems like you need to be one to be a part of the community. I want all to be welcome.

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        Most real woman don’t wanna marry a guy who fantasizes about being a weird little catboy.

    • @Perhapsjustsniffit@lemmy.ca
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      Agreed Lemmy is rife with this shit. So much femboi fucking manga anime or whatever they call it. Cool you do you but fuck off with involving everyone else in your kink. I’m just an old fat married dude with kids trying to learn stuff.

      • @OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee
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        As long as we’re careful here. People can be however they want to be. If you’re saying people shouldn’t be making memes that assume all people are like them, yes. If you’re saying living how they want is “involving everyone else in your kink” we’re getting into iffy territory.

        • @Perhapsjustsniffit@lemmy.ca
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          I’ll be careful. Keep your kinks where they belong. No matter who the fuck you are. Stop forcing them on communities they do not belong.

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            Again, sure, but dressing with a feminine aesthetic is not a kink any more than being goth is a kink. People don’t have to abide by your gender norms.

            • @Perhapsjustsniffit@lemmy.ca
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              Whatever man. They can gender all they want it has nothing to do with it. Sorry I used the wrong words to justify my distain. I could give a fuck how you or anyone else lives their life. I’m not anti anything but greed, genocide and pushing personal ideals like this onto others without warrant. If it was a “Christian” pushing it would be the same response.

      • Victor
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        Yes. I subscribe to Linux memes to get memes about Linux, not femboys. It’s not relatable at all for me. Guess I’ll rethink my subscription. Maybe I don’t belong anymore.

    • @CAVOK@lemmy.world
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      Very weird. Started with Slackware back in 97 or so. Still not a femboy and no desire to be one.

      Maybe if I switched to arch?

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          Funny how every prominent person who has accused someone of this when talking about LGBTQI+ people has turned out to be a pedo or groomer themselves.

          Maybe someone should look into your obsession with kids and other people’s sexual activities.

      • Victor
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        Because I don’t want to. And I don’t want to be made like I want to, nor should.

        • TurboWafflz
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          Do you like genuinely think people are trying to turn you into a femboy? No one is doing that, it is just a joke. Be whatever you want, that’s kind of the point.

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            I do not, no, I know they can’t. I just don’t like the attitude. If it’s a joke, it’s definitely weird considering the LGBTQ community is under constant pressure to conform to binary gender roles from the rest of society. But then here they’re doing the same thing? Even as a joke? Especially if OP is not part of said community, but I assume they are.

            I just don’t think it’s funny, because I know they don’t enjoy it either. It’s distasteful in my opinion, because the respect needs to be both ways.

    • @themaninblack@lemmy.world
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      Really the anime and chicks with dicks on this website. It’s enough to make one explode with sexual desire for a boy toy.

    • @kttnpunk@lemmy.world
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      Yes, yes yes! The world needs more femboy dads. That said this happened the other way around for me. Just goes to show how much overlap there is among fringe internet cultures- I really wish we could all play nice more often.

  • The Menemen!
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    Maybe for you youngsters. We old farts only get to grow a beard and get fat.

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      I feel like a lot of young linux users aren’t getting the talk and it makes me sad. Nobody ever sat them down with a copy of The Very Hungry Caterpillar and explained the life cycle of an IT professional.

      They never learn the natural cycle of things: that at a certain age a lot of IT professionals undergo metamorphosis and transform into beautiful, sock-and-sandal wearing greybeards.

      • @EuroNutellaMan@lemmy.world
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        Nah it’s more-so that the conditions have changed making femboy IT guys less likely to die or be pushed out of the environment and therefore increasing biodiversity which is a net positive for the species as a whole as it indicates good health

    • @EuroNutellaMan@lemmy.world
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      That’s due to oppression by the State and society that doesn’t want to allow our respected graybeards to become the femboy they deserve to be. We nust destroy this oppressive system for the freedom of the greybeards, the gamers, the Gentoo users and all other oppressed peoples ✊🏻

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      Yup. Exactly what happened to me. Guess I could still shave my legs and where thigh-highs 🤷‍♀️

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    There are exactly two kinds of folks in IT, soon to be or fully out anime queer folks and furries, and 60 something industry gurus who all always wear polo shirts and live in an upper middle class house despite apparently being rich as sin, also they are so hard for home security measures their backup security footage server in Montana has its own backup in a bugout bunker in New Zealand.

    I was neither so I ended up being a number cruncher for a solar company instead.

    • @EuroNutellaMan@lemmy.world
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      When a linux user is born, a random path is chosen. They will either become a hot femboy, a bald polo shirt guy or a domestic terrorist.

      So anyway there’s a feee blahaj over there.

    • @bier@feddit.nl
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      This is just the lastest thing, it used to be the old IT guys and the ones with a beard, long hair and a metal shirt.

      • Ð Greıt Þu̇mpkin
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        Kinda but I’m on the existing site side of business, the only new projects I even sit in on are expansions for existing customers (which is relatively common because it’s municipal brownfield solar, which means most sites have at least some room to expand)

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    And the 35 or so odd well adjusted linux folks around that find anime, fishnets, thinkpads, (and all associated memes) to be annoying AF. Esp anime / manga / uwu /waifu / and everything in that microcosm of artistic styling if I’m being honest.

    I just like the software composability discussion in plain English, man, not the side of fries.

    Edit: And anyone who disagrees uses stock Ubuntu unity and unironically thinks it’s both beautiful and just as good as any other distro :P

  • RachelRodent
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    To me it was Furry -> Punk -> Tech Geek -> Privacy Geek -> installing linux

    • Ann Archy
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      For me it went

      C64 Crack Intros -> Synth -> Rave -> Ambient -> Linux -> Drugs and alcohol

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        For me it went, MacOS → Hard Drugs → Windows → Harder Drugs → Linux → Weed

        • @bier@feddit.nl
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          Am I the only one that just did

          Loves computers -> got an engineering degree -> had coworkers I looked up to all using Linux -> started using it myself -> wife and kids

        • Ann Archy
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          I worked at the NOC for a media company with over 3K employees. They made us use MacBook Pros 13" for our day to day sysadministrative tasks.

          • nickwitha_k (he/him)
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            That’s not too bad. They make great ssh clients. For my dev work, I like them for that reason - open Kitty and ssh into my dev box.

            • Ann Archy
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              Laptops. Apple laptops. I don’t know but that does not sync well with administering linux networks with for me, personally. God those things were horrible. I don’t ever write it out on my CV that I can work those things, I will actively state in interviews that I have zero X/iOS experience.

              I was a Macintosh fanboy up to circa 2000, after that they changed everything and I can’t stand them anymore. I call them Apple, because Macintosh is a thing of the past.

              • nickwitha_k (he/him)
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                The way that I see it is that they’re unix-like laptops that have decent support contracts. Given the choice of an Apple or Windows work laptop, I go with the former. Not because I like Apple (I don’t) but because it’s a unix-like OS which doesn’t require any extra tools to ssh into things plus, it is far more stable than Windows without things constantly breaking after update Tuesday.

                I mean it when I say that I use it as a glorified ssh client. I do all of my work on a remote Linux VM via ssh. The reason that I decided to use Kitty in the first place was to make more use of the laptop hardware because it feels like a bit of a waste of their capabilities. The only other things outside of the terminal that I use with regularity are Chrome and Firefox.

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              FFS, they are awful SSH clients. You can’t even easily split the screen up with multiple terminals, and by default it fucks around with the order of your desktops.

              • nickwitha_k (he/him)
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                Maybe the default terminal but that does have tabbing OotB (GUI+T) though, you can just open multiple windows. If you want more than that or something aestheticly pleasing, grab iTerm or Kitty. If you want terminal multiplexing, grab tmux via homebrew. Tiling WM? Amethyst works nicely.

                Plus, you don’t need any abstraction or local VM to scp local files. Bonus: The OS clipboard keys are different than the terminal control sequences.

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                  Amethyst works okay.

                  It definitely fixes a bunch of things like being able to move windows between desktops by keyboard shortcuts.

                  But all other OS’ support that out the box.

                  Plus, you don’t need any abstraction or local VM to scp local files.

                  I don’t need that on my Fedora laptop either.

                  The OS clipboard keys are different than the terminal control sequences.

                  Probably the only thing that is beneficial.

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      For me it was learning some basic python -> making some basic programs -> getting tired of having to move stuff to the WSL -> installing Linux -> being a privacy advicate

      Whike at the same time:

      Getting randomly harassed by some dude who thought I was a lesbian (I’m a cis guy) -> becoming even more politically active -> punk -> Joining a party

      And then both paths merged into -> interacting with more queer people -> idk

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    I just hated that Windows had become a privacy cesspit and I wasn’t afraid of breaking things in Linux. Also, I accept that sometimes you just have to format and reinstall your sins of stupidity away.

    • middle aged cishetguy

    PS - You Lemmy bastards did get me into Star Trek though. Maybe it has begun…

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    It really isn’t though. This is a pretty weak stereotype. I have so many friends that are counter examples. Hey it’s okay to make a meme if you want to have fun but if that’s how you feel then your friend group is small.

    • Zloubida
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      Memes aren’t about truth; memes are about social preconceptions.

    • @euphoric_cat@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      its funny, but I don’t like it in practice either, because its actually prevented some friends from switching over to Linux

      “hey if your upset with windows, why not have a look at Linux?”

      “do I look like a femboy, or gay to you??”

      that’s about how the conversation goes

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          Yeah but if you live in places as Eastern Europe there aren’t a lot of “yay LGBT” people (yeah sorry for me saying it that way, couldn’t think of any other way to describe it), especially in the more remote parts (like for example, Prague is like an American city in this regard, a ton of support and stuff, and when I compare it to the middle of nowhere I live in it’s the complete opposite)

          I at least get the luxury that they don’t get the “uwu Linux turned me into a femboy” post on their tiktok fyp (ofc they have that app installed so they can get their daily dose of homophobic bs)

          To note these aren’t my friends but classmates, we had an event a few days ago about learning how to stand up for our opinions and the first thing they pulled out is about this, ofc 95% of all guys in the class went to the “ban and execute” group, they lost their argument since their only opinion was “well it’s not natural”, I hate how they just dragged this for the rest of the event (the next task was to come up with a list of the most common positive opinions of society, ofc since they are the majority of out class the result was “banning LGBTQ”, and not to mention they dragged it for next three days after the event too

          TL;DR

          It just depends on where you live, and what the common opinions there are

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            I mean: insecure idiots who seriously think that using an OS that professionals in programming and security use/recommend has too much of a progressive culture? Sounds like a them problem.

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        “do I look like a femboy, or gay to you??”

        It’s a half-decent joke but do they actually think that?

    • @EuroNutellaMan@lemmy.world
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      What if those friends are all femboys but they’re too put off by your defensiveness about it to invite you to the femboy orgies LAN parties?

  • M137
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    Because the closest a Linux user could ever come to touching a female or anything feminine is becoming a femboy.

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        It’s amazing how much of those crazy s********** are actually true. All they require is a partner who wants to engage with you and do your little adventures. Then you can have sex while driving, have sex while programming, have sex while on a work call. They’re into it too for the same story reasons you are.

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        You know what, you should totally do that. If you believe you got enough post .com anecdotes and stuff, you should start a blog and tell us young uns what it was like to be a tech guy in the early zeros. I am a sucker for life stories and experiences of early internet era programmers.