

😂 good point
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😂 good point


I have anecdotal experience. People who pay human traffickers to illegally bring them from one safe country to another, and then abuse the asylum system should be treated like criminals, yes.


People who are criticising immigration aren’t a free pass to abuse them either.


Time for the police to waste their own resources doing their national duty of locking up grannies again.


I didn’t say anything racist on here, never have and (hopefully) never will. And if I do, I’m sorry.
Edit: read the modlog, I wasn’t calling for violence against anyone. The joke was that real patriots would be willing to bear what they are claiming their countrymen are going through in solidarity. Kinda parodying right wing claims and the blitz spirit or signing up for the war 80 years ago, or I guess during COVID. “They” was referring to the villagers of piddington.


It’s one-way monogamy. Basically objectifies women.


Illegal immigrants are given benefits such as an allowance and accommodation.
https://fullfact.org/immigration/asylum-seeker-support-faqs/#one
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/major-law-change-to-criminalise-small-boat-smuggler-ads
The ONS doesn’t collect statistics on crime and immigration status


Every channel crosser pays human traffickers to try and game the system. Instead of applying for a visa normally, they take a boat from an already safe country to get here. There have been some good BBC documentaries on it- essentially it’s advertised in places like Iraq “pay xyz (usually around £10k) and we’ll get you to Britain”. Typically the benefits the UK government gives you is part of the advertising material.
I can only speak anecdotally, but in estates where there’s asylum seekers placed, you get large groups of those men walking about, staring at you, and there’s been cases in the news regarding rape, I have a friend who witnessed them carrying knives attempting an attack on another group of men. Such a thing rarely happens with local people in these areas (not sure how proportionally it is with rape and violence, but when you’re in someone else’s country, you should be good as gold anyway. Especially if they’re giving you benefits and seriously considering an asylum claim. However, this data isn’t collected so we can only go off anecdotal evidence rather than lay the issue to rest).
Not all asylum seekers crossed the channel or the Irish border by the way. Plenty of good people already here have situations back home or personal circumstances change. I fully support our system protecting them and helping them, they’re the ones it should exist for. Not for people crossing the channel trying to find an easy way into the UK.


That is good. The general consensus I find is that people don’t care about race, but they hate people who game the immigration system. I’m one of those, in many ways I feel the legal immigration system is too strict and the asylum system is too lenient.


I think I’ll start: A number of weeks ago I had a bad chest infection. I called my GP, got a ringback, and by the end of the day I had medication (had a family member pick it up for me from the pharmacy which the GP sent the prescription to). Same day treatment, and not a single penny left my pocket. People complain about the NHS, and it has a lot of room for improvement, but they don’t really complain when it does actually work. So I thought I’d shout it out here :)


was no different from me. “He just wants to take his drugs and have a good time on Saturday night”’ realized. He was no different from me!
How can you be sure that these illegal immigrants are no different than you? For example, are you sure they have the same respect for women as you? I met a Pakistani fella once (wasn’t an illegal immigrant, but was an international student). He was boasting about how he had two marriages lined up. I think from there it was quite well established that different cultures have different levels of acceptability for behaviour.


Illegal immigration is an issue but it’s nowhere near the cause of society’s ills. Just thought it was worth putting that out there.
If anything, it’s just a symptom.


Wouldn’t they get an EEZ


Paying human traffickers to try and bypass the visa system and lying about fleeing some war in france, also lying about your age, in order to claim benefits for people actually in need, tends to instigate friction.


It’s particularly illegal immigrants. Essentially once someone disregards the immigration system, then their likelihood of disregarding other laws is dramatically increased.
Legal immigrants also hate this happening as well, as they work hard to get a visa and then their reputation gets annihilated by freeloaders and possibly criminals or nuisances escaping repercussions abroad.


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The logic is, though. Someone who abuses and exploits systems to get to where they are shouldn’t be trusted.