• Patapon Enjoyer
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    11 months ago

    That’s unfair, there should be a lot of other children and a few dogs on the Operation Condor side.

  • @Gigan@lemmy.world
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    011 months ago

    Should the USA force them to be democratic? Because that didn’t work to well in Afghanistan or Vietnam.

    • @rockSlayer@lemmy.world
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      The long history of the US backing fascist dictatorships is Chinese propaganda? If history is propaganda then I don’t know what to say other than you’re denying reality.

    • @Lemvi
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      It is kinda valid though, historically the US has not necessarily been supporting the more democratic option as much as the less socialist one.

      • @deft@ttrpg.network
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        this is any rich country don’t let that be forgotten. From canada to france to china and russia, imperialism or imperial adjacent has been the strategy

      • @masquenox@lemmy.world
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        111 months ago

        The US has never supported democracy outside it’s borders - it has never even been very keen on democracy within it’s borders.

        Also, the US has long ago ceased to be worried about socialism - the biggest threat to it’s neocolonialist hegemony is nationalism, not socialism. That’s the whole reason it funded fundamentalist, far-right Islamism into being to undermine nationalism in the Arab world (ie, the same reason Israel funded Hamas back in the late 80s).

          • @AA5B@lemmy.world
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            311 months ago

            Not really an excuse but you have to remember at that time we were at the height of the Cold War, we had the “red scare” and McCarthyism. “Commies” were thought of as an existential threat

            • @masquenox@lemmy.world
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              111 months ago

              “Commies” were thought of as an existential threat

              No. The post-WW2 “red scare” was pretty much just a pretext to wage war on the 3rd world - the real red-and-black scare happened after WW1 (that’s where the fetishization of “border security” and the obsessive policing of nationality stems from).

              That’s what the (so-called) “Cold War” was really all about - the US violently replacing the old European powers as the world’s foremost colonialist empire. And it sure as hell managed to rack up the bodycount to prove it.

                • @masquenox@lemmy.world
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                  111 months ago

                  That’s quite an imaginative perspective

                  No, it isn’t. It doesn’t require imagination at all. If you want something that requires a crap-ton of imagination, go see the narratives the US has been spinning about the (so-called) “Cold War” - you have to be pretty high on “westernism” to buy any of it.

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      11 months ago

      Everyone who doesn’t think the US is a beacon of democracy is a state sponsored bad actor, specially those of countries the US destabilized, bombed or supported dictatorships in

            • @TokenBoomer@lemmy.worldOP
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              You’re laughing at the truth, you mad man. Since you refuse to read:

              Operation Condor (Spanish: Operación Cóndor, also known as Plan Cóndor; Portuguese: Operação Condor) was a United States-backed campaign of political repression and state terrorism,[12] involving intelligence operations, CIA-backed coups, as well as assassinations of left-wing leaders in South America from 1968 to 1989.[13][14] Operation Condor was officially and formally implemented in November 1975 by the right-wing dictatorships of the Southern Cone of South America.[15]

              Come at me bro, I can shatter your comfortable blanket of denialism all day.