Looks like Trump is getting more than he bargained for when taking on BBC.
I keep saying that these defendants should stop settling, and start demanding their day in court, with a FEROCIOUS discovery, and a countersuit to make him cover the legal costs if he loses.
Then REFUSE to settle, or drop the case. Follow it all the way through, you know he’ll never win.
Fight fire with a Supernova.
Trump is afraid of BBC.
Use this headline as you will.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump wasn’t aware that the BBC isn’t 'Murican
I mean, he’s a fucking idiot, after all
That is why he is doing it in a US court. They let you sue foreign entities.
What stops a country from saying something like, “it is illegal for our citizens to be sued in a foreign court”?
Treaties mostly. And if they ever wanna do business in the US again. Which pre oompalumpanian policies and politics was an appealing thing to have and do.
You can’t dictate laws in another country.
I think he’ll drop the suit so that he doesn’t have to disclose the tax documents. You know he’s committing tax fraud, and if those docs are released, the world will know. That won’t affect him now, but it will in 2.5 years.
Yeah he may have gotten away with real-estate fraud, tax fraud, election fraud, rape, stealing classified documents, literally coup attempts against congress, but he won’t get away with tax fraud.
So many things to conceal and protect… Like the TRUMP-EPSTEIN FILES ™ for example.
Must be exhausting. No wonder he’s always on the nod.
Buddy isn’t going to make it very far past the mark where vance can run for 2 terms. Either he’ll actually die of natural causes, or the people controlling him will kill him.
I sincerely hope he will face no consequences in 2.5 years. On accounts of painfully and painstakingly slowly dying 2.49 years prior.
Nah. Make him live to 100.
In prison 🤗
Now you’re talking.
The Justice department gave him immunity from past and future tax fraud
They have a wish list for Santa Claus, too.
It wont affect him ever.
He’s an example for them.
He is going to get immunity for suing the IRS. No eay that clause doesnt come back. And the time to adjucate that, he will be long dead
No he’s not. That will never be legal.
“I want justice!! JUSTICE! …uhhhh, now wait a minute…”
No no, he wants “Just ICE”. Slip of the tongue, common amongst the elderly deranged.
He’s just stalling long enough to cook the books.
It’s a no-win scenario for him. Showing that the BBC hurt his financials is admitting weakness. Not being able to show a financial loss defeats his case.
I would love to have his backers outed as well.
There’s something so beautiful to see about him hanging himself with his own rope, because of his stupidity and arrogance
I look forward to his death, and I hope that it hurts the whole time
At this point it just looks like he has an asphyxiation fetish. When, or at this point really, if, he gets any sort of comeuppance it’ll be a fucking miracle.
He seems to have cholera, or dysentery, the way he shits himself constantly. Hopefully he shits himself to death.
He’s not gonna take that BBC lying down!
He’ll wiggle and worm for all he’s worth but then drop the suit before they can climax.
I hope they counter sue for their defense costs and as much more as they possibly can. I wonder if the BBC counter suing him on the grounds that this lawsuit from him was filed based on a lie (his imaginary $10b loss), he failed to comply with the court order to disclose finances to prove the loss he himself had claimed, and then when the judge refused to stay that order he ended up dropping his case entirely would be a way to try to force the same financial record disclosure?
I’d imagine not under normal circumstances, the burden of proof being on the one suing… but with that chain of events and every historic estimate of Trump’s net worth having been far less than that claimed $10B loss… it seems like it might be possible.
How would you know, those files have been redacted.
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The BBC responded to the trust Wednesday in a court filing opposing the request to pause the order, arguing it “is a transparent effort to evade this Court’s clear and direct order and to continue to avoid the discovery obligations that Plaintiff took on when he chose to file this lawsuit.”
Wouldn’t someone in the US with a passing familiarity of lawsuits and who has been in court innumerable times have an inkling about the discovery phase?
I recognize President Pedophile is incredibly stupid, in addition to being a horrible human being. But I’m struggling to see how he could have made this mistake. Additionally, he has lawyers. This is incredible.
Good on the BBC for fighting this.
It’s not a mistake.
He’s a bully. He thinks he can get away with it, so he does it…because he usually gets away with it.
He will drop the case before he has to submit evidence for discovery.
If he does BBC should be allowed to counter sue as it was clearly a fraudulent claim in the first place.
He thought the BBC would roll over like when he sued ABC and they just paid him 15 million and apologized to him. Or when he sued CBS and they paid him 16 million. The issue is that BBC is funded from taxpayer money and I don’t think the British taxpayers would be very happy with them paying Trump.
Also, as a foreign broadcaster the Trump-controlled FCC can’t threaten the BBC’s license. I think this is a factor in the US-based broadcasters rolling over.
Don’t you mean the “land of the free”-based broadcasters? Lol
There’s also a stark difference between 15 mil and 10 bn
ABC did that on purpose. They knew they could use the settlement as a disguised bribe to get preferential treatment from Trump. That was worth more than the legal battle that would drag on for years and net them nothing. He still hasn’t paid E. Jean Carroll. He certainly wouldn’t have paid out the ABC case.
What they did is the equivalent of paying a crooked cop. It’s textbook racketeering. “Pay me and we’ll protect you.” -every one of the 5 families.
ABC is owned by Disney, there’s an equally likely chance they were afraid Trump would retaliate by blocking a merger or something. I don’t know what merger it would have been, but it feels like there’s a pretty good chance Disney is trying to buy some other company at any given time.
Well yeah because Trump could get their license revoked.
He does not have that leverage with the bbc
He could have tried to get their license revoked, but would have lost the ensuing lawsuit on first amendment grounds. ABC was never at risk of losing their license. They willingly chose the bribe. A lawyer that just passed their BAR exam could have won that case.
but would have lost the ensuing lawsuit on first amendment grounds. ABC was never at risk of losing their license.
I don’t agree. They could revoke it and drag it through the courts, but it could take years. They also could make up any reason they wanted to distance itself from free speech rules.
They willingly chose the bribe.
I agree that the result is the same, but they saw the carrot AND the stick.
It’s not quite tax payer money, we pay a licence fee to be able to watch live broadcast which funds the BBC (they also get a vast amount of money from licensing shows overseas). But your point is true that the public would be pissed if they just rolled over and paid without fighting Trump
Yep.
I’m a licence payer and not only would I be very upset if the BBC just paid the raging orange paedo, I also want to offer my services to fight that fat cunt.I mean physically. I don’t have the money to win in court, however I’d be verrrrry happy to throw hands.
Very happy.
You have no way to gauge how happy I’d be to punch that useless pile of wobbling dementia riddled barrel of rape and corruption.happy to throw hands
Eh, he’s got some heft to him. You’re better off trying to sweep the leg.
Have you seen his calves though? I’m not sure that a leg sweep is moving one of those. I suppose you might pop it instead which would still be interesting at least.
Goodness, this was brilliantly stated and I salute you. I think many would want to follow in your lead. An orderly line of eager participants, each wishing to have their turn, might be required.
How does the old licensing fee go these days ? It was a pretty poor payment at the best of times wasn’t it? Can’t imagine since streaming arrived anyone pays for tv?
I’m hoping the beeb wins and gets everything they want. It will signal to other entities he’s threatened with lawsuits that he’s a stuffed shirt (and how!) that has more dirt to hide than they do.
UK law is much more open to discovery than the US, and losers pay. Betcha Trump didn’t know that.
Oh, if that’s the case, when he loses, he’ll be chewing what’s left of his hair.
Trump HATES paying for anything.
I’ve been in the Trades since 1980 and for years, the running snarky aside about him went “If you want to know whether Trump pays his bills, ask any electrician in New Jersey…”
Apparently he’s gone through a lot of them and stiffed quite a few over the decades.
This case is in the US courts.
Yep. That’s one of the BBC’s many arguments, that this case is being heard in the wrong place (Florida Southern District, Miami):
It’s worth a skim for anyone interested in these things; the number of ways he’s trying to cheat, play dirty, and just manipulate the process are overwhelming.
Oh a Florida Southern District court? Wonder why they chose that location.
As the plaintiff, Trump chose it. As the BBC notes, the offending documentary was never shown in the US. Presumably they’ve chosen the venue where the supposed harm occurred, but as he’s scrambling desperately to avoid having to prove that harm occurred, who fucking knows, lol.
Afaik it’s typical in the US to file in a court that’s known to take the side of people or organizations similar to the plaintiff, or resolve similar cases in a manner beneficial to the plaintiff.
Mar a Lago. Mar a Lago lost 10 billion dollars of valuation due to the documentary!
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Indeed. And I mean, the editing they used wasn’t even misleading except in small details. He said everything they quoted him saying, and his speech was a call to arms, it’s just he didn’t say it quite so directly.
But sure, ten billion in damages.
So few of these bullshit cases go to court, I hope the judge fucks Trump for abusing the process after coming to understand he isn’t using the court in good faith.
What in the US the loser doesn’t pay?
Not unless the judge rules that one side must cover the cost incurred by the other. Even then, they could drag out the payment over the course of years due to appeals or bankruptcy filings.
That’s insane
Nope. And there is no mediation, which is why the US is full of ambulance chasers and everyone sues everyone.
I’m sure you have seen this, but he hires based on loyalty, not competence.
This. Competent lawyers won’t touch him with a ten foot pole. The ones he’s used up to now have generally failed. He usually squirms his way out of lawsuits in other ways.
Very good point, thank you.
Additionally, he has lawyers.
Lawyers he refuses to listen to because he thinks he’s “smarter than them”.
They just know they’ll be replaced if they disagree with him
Also I have a feeling the smart ones tend to avoid working for him.
he has lawyers
Despite what he may claim, not the biggest, brightest lawyers. We’re talking Rudy Giuliani, Pam Bondi, Kenneth Chesebro, and Alan Dershowitz.
None of whom are allowed to practice law any more.
Which is wild, because representing the POTUS is something some lawyers would probably do for free just for the prestige. Except that Trump always wants them to break the law and incriminate themselves.
He doesn’t file lawsuits to actually win them, he files them as intimidation. He expects the other side to cave, and to settle. I tried to search for lawsuit Trump actually won on their merits, without a negotiated settlement, and could only find one that was a default judgement (so the other side didn’t even show up).
I recognize President Pedophile is incredibly stupid, in addition to being a horrible human being. But I’m struggling to see how he could have made this mistake. Additionally, he has lawyers.
He’s burned through many lawyers and there are few reputable or intelligent lawyers left who might be willing to light their careers on fire. Sure, he might find one willing to trade their career for whatever benefits they might get (or maybe they just have a hard on for fascism, which often means they are fucking stupid too), but most of his lawyers have, eventually, been left holding a flaming bag of shit while Trump transparently lies and pretends he has never heard of them or has heard they aren’t very good.
It’s happening to pretty much the entire fucking justice department. It used to be a very sought after career. Now they are giving fresh grads signing bonuses and then shuffling them into the meat grinder and sacrificing their reputation to further the administration’s nakedly corrupt agenda. “Hey, new kid, I need you to take this case.” Turns out the case is about some poor immigrant that been detained for months and then deported despite having court orders protecting him from deportation… that were clumsily bypassed with unsigned orders or some other bullshit. New kid sits in front of a frustrated judge yelling at him and the kid can only say “I don’t know what happened” and go home and cry into his pillow.
He’s banking on the news not making it over here since he pretty much controls all of the media now.
That’s why I go to the BBC for my local (American) news.
ANY news agency except American is better. We did it to ourselves.
The BBC gets most of its US news from its US news partner… CBS
I have seen a fair amount of parroting from them. Still better than the propaganda machines here.
He probably assumed it wouldn’t go anywhere, and he didn’t need to do anything, because he’s president.
Can you blame him? He’s got a thing going with Bubba. He won’t ruin that by letting some BBC inside his finances
Looks like Trump is getting more than he bargained for when taking on BBC.
Which BBC we talking about here?
Oh please, take the time to transpose Trump’s and pipers head!
Both kinds
This is the correct response.
Gosh, it would be a shame if all his financial records got released without his consent. You know… like all the names and personal information of the Epstein victims.
They will seal them all. Says in the court filings that even if released to BBC many can’t be made public.
Because rich people are in charge of the United States so whatever they want goes.
If they release them to the BBC, then it comes down to. Would the UK government want a rut with the US?
It lowkey opens for blackmail, if they’re hiding smut on Trump and willingly gives them to the UK.
Why would the government be involved?
The BBC, despite its claims of editorial independence, ultimately serves at the pleasure of the government.
It’s very naive to think that any politically significant information given to the BBC wouldn’t then be handed over to Lisa Nandy or MI5.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC#Governance
Dump expected the British media to just roll over like the media does here in the States.
The terrible BBC I call them, horrible people and a bad outlet and I’m told, going under any day now! Big business guy, friend of mine the other day told me they’re not doing too - well. In dire… dire straights and about to go… under. The terrible BBC!
Why did I automatically read it in his voice? Help.
