• Maco1969@lemmy.world
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    43 分钟前

    A large steel pipe or exhaust pipe chain cutter would be fast, silent and easy to conceal.

    • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
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      Change clothing. Use different devices to bring down the cameras. Winch, sawzall, whatever. Pawn shops and yard sales can have suitable tools. Don’t give them a well defined pattern.

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        How are you unable to understand the comment you replied to? They said nothing about not cutting down the cameras, they said it’s a bad idea to film it. And no one needs to film it, all that does is collect possible evidence if they get caught.

        There are so many comments in this thread that are so fucking weird, it’s like you’re all kids who have comprehension disabilities.

        • Dr. Moose@lemmy.world
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          I think OP’s point is that filming is part of this process as it’s what grows the movement.

      • Annoyed_🦀 @lemmy.zip
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        Balloon filled with red paint and yeet it on the lense like they owe you money, it would be much more effective and quicker tbh.

        • TrackinDaKraken@lemmy.world
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          How is this “more effective”?

          Really, painting the camera isn’t enough, it could be cleaned and put back into service the same day. It should be smashed.

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            Labour is expensive though and AI ain’t gonna do that shit. Cha-ching!

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              It’s even more expensive for them to have to put up a whole new one. Why are you people coming up with less effective and destructive ways to handle it? It’s like you secretly want the cameras to be there, it’s extremely weird.

            • Ghoelian@piefed.social
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              These cameras do much more than just record video (if it’s a flock anyway). They also track every RFID, WiFi, and Bluetooth device afaik

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            and also permanently damage or destroy the eyesight of innocent people nearby

      • turdburglar@piefed.social
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        there is a fixed amount of monetary value over which destruction of property becomes a felony.

        don’t ask me how i know it was $1500 in 2006 in a jurisdiction in a state i lived in.

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            nope. federal and state is a jurisdiction thing mainly. you have to do it to federal property to be a federal felony. If you kill someone you don’t get persecuted in federal court. Most of the us court things are at the state level. the federal government (normally) enforces court procedures so that they are constitutional and such.

      • MML@sh.itjust.works
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        Because it harms your local elected official who got bribed to put them up back pocket

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      Whilst the ULEZ and other low emission zones are a good thing (because of the air pollution benefits), the cameras that enforce them are a privacy nightmare.

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        21 小时前

        In the UK, everything is a privacy nightmare.

        The only thing on our side is the sheer incompetence of the police.

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      This is informative and unfortunate - because anyone in the video is less likely to be prosecuted

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    From comment in the source they are not flock and at least officially intended for tracking who is going through the low pollution zones and which of them have vehicles that don’t qualify to be there.

    Some decades ago or so in bc/canada we had aircare and it went something along the lines of you brought your car in to be tested for emissions and cars that were too shit were just deemed not road worthy but some fuckass politicians managed to get rid of it easily with high support from drivers who hate any minor personal inconveniences. I’d happily go in for the testing if it was still a thing. Car manufacturers don’t even have to try to make a safe product and every city just smells like car exhaust.

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      and at least officially intended for tracking

      That’s the lie they sell you. Doorbell cameras aren’t officially intended for tracking people, either, but here we are.

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      From comment in the source they are not flock and at least officially intended for tracking who is going through the low pollution zones and which of them have vehicles that don’t qualify to be there.

      There’s a much simpler and less intrusive way to accomplish that: just put up bollards to exclude all automobiles and only allow bicyclesa and pedestrians.

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        There are a lot of assumptions in this thread so I am going to make another one and assume that these are ULEZ cameras around London.

        There was a controversial expansion of the low emissions zone to cover the whole metropolitan area a couple of years ago. After that, groups, mainly from the hard-right factions decided that they wanted to cut them down. This isn’t a privacy move as they weren’t targeting any of the many other existing cameras that are set up for things like vehicle tax and insurance, but more of a “I want to drive what I want no matter how polluting” type thing. There are also overlaps with the 15-minute city and anti-net-zero gang.

        Although it sounds nice to have the whole city be demotorised, I don’t think that is quite feasible yet. If you are wanting to be privacy-conscious, using a car is not the way forward.

      • Grass@sh.itjust.works
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        We have those but many of them cars are allowed to enter to park and it just ends up being cars zooming around to find a parking spot or idling until someone leaves and it still sucks to breathe there

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          Emergency Service Vehicles can just be exceptions. Like how it is in the rest of the world. Banning cars off of streets and making them into pedestrian zones actually improves access for emergency service vehicles by a lot! Because, you know, there aren’t any cars in the way to block them anymore. A handful of bicycles and some pedestrians can clear an entire road a lot faster than like 4 cars.

          The rest of the world thought of this and said, “You know, maybe we should aim to make our emergency service vehicles more specialized and as compact as possible so that they can fit in any street easily and have high maneuverability”. You know what the US did? Yup. They made EMS vehicles bigger and less specialized 🤦‍♂️…

          There aren’t any excuses for car centric street design.

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              Well then use retractable bollards. We have them in my town (Netherlands), and they have a thing where they will open automatically for emergency services.

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    With the amount of metadata embedded in videos this is perhaps not a wise idea to do.

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      It’s mindblowing how many people will just outright confess to crimes on social media. Basic opsec is to tell nobody. Not your friends, partner, mom, nobody. The thing people are juggling with flock cameras is balancing your own risk of getting caught vs. stoking public opinion in support of tearing these things down, which is tricky to get right. Bottom line with how psychotic this admin is though, if you’re not confident you can post anonymously, probably better to not post at all.

      You really should not do this though - at the very least turn your phone off, better would be to leave it at home. This admin is not above geofencing to investigate petty vandalism, and flock cameras are very rarely the only cameras in a given area (and they tattle, so if you do cut one down get out asap).

      Also, apropos of nothing, make sure you’re using the right type of blade for the material you’re cutting. Aluminum can gum up some steel cutting tools (especially abrasive disks and portaband blades) surprisingly fast which is why aluminum specific versions are made. Oh and make sure your tools are properly insulated before cutting thru something you can’t isolate, electrocution is even less fun than it looks.

      • goatinspace@feddit.org
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        Cutting down surveillance while surveiling yourself, because childhood was under surveillance.

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          I case you’re genuinely asking: Americans use “admin” as short for “administration”, as in “the Trump administration”. It is, as you point out, also short for “administrator”, hence the confusion.

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            Ohhh yeah that makes way more sense. I was like, what is this Lemmy drama I’ve missed to cause this much shade thrown at the mods 😂

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      Not sure why you’re downvoted. There are of course ways to strip metadata and post more carefully (hopefully anonymously) but I doubt people posting to corporate-owned social media are taking those steps either.