• over_clox@lemmy.world
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    Okay folks, I have just left upvote 69, so we can leave this nice beautiful perfection alone now…

    👍

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      I mean to be fair many memes are posted on reddit and lemmy is comparably tiny to reddit, so cross-posting can be valid.

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      that explains the gen x-ass humour on this particular forum. couldn’t put my finger on it till now lol

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    At this point I think the only useful signage is “sitting” vs “standing” and maybe “accessible”.

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      These are the bathroom doors at a brewery near me. I don’t understand why more places don’t do this. If it’s a single stall bathroom, it’s all that matters.

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      If I ever run a place with bathrooms, I’ll get two gender neutral bathrooms then make a habit of putting confusing pictures in front of each like they’re gendered, like a picture of a screwdriver on one and a picture of a wrench on the other, another day put a knight chess piece on one and rook on the other, a goose and a squirrel, keep em guessing

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    If you’re gonna make the bathrooms gendered, at least include ACTUAL SIGNAGE with the artwork. Not every person who walks in there is going to know at a glance what this means nor do genital shapes equate to gender and bathroom choices

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      Genitals??? No no no. You got it all wrong. It’s asking “When you pee, is it delicate like a flower? Or does it sting like a cactus?”

      Just trying to prevent the spread of STDs through toilet seats.

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      Thing is: They do.
      If a transwoman with a penis feels like going into the urinal bathroom: Sure. Go bud.
      Not like it said “Man and male with penis only”

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        Yeah… that’s not how that shit works in practice if you’re trans in far too many places…

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            I think guys really wouldn’t mind a transwoman nearly as much as a trans man would bother people in the ladies.

            Although the trans woman might have a bad experience in the mens (imagine the scale of a “bad experience” yourself), I don’t think that men would be bothered. Hell, pretty often in nightclubs you get cis women using the men’s, because the line is so much longer and slower in the ladies.

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      nor do genital shapes equate to gender and bathroom choices

      For most people out there, they do.

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        Most people don’t have wheelchairs either, yet crosswalks have those little dips in the curb for wheelchairs. And consequently it’s far more pleasant now for cyclists and any other person traveling on sidewalks with wheels

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          First of all, no idea what you’re talking about. We have those curbs on train platforms, but those are for blind people so they don’t fall onto the tracks.

          Second, I don’t get what you’re trying to say tbh. The womens bathroom is better with trans people in it or what is the argument here?

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              I don’t see how allowing biological men in the womens bathroom is making anyone’s life better, especially considering the downsides which is that many women find it extremely troubling to see men in an area that is usually reserved for them.

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                As you’re using the terms being thrown around lately, I’ll assume you just spit out what you hear without actual knowledge. There is no such thing as biological man or woman. There are sexes but even that isn’t binary, it’s a spectrum with many outliers that have sex disorders. Additionally, chromosomes does not equal phenotype. There are men out there with XX and women with a Y chromosome. Additionally, sex characteristics and phenotype are not just based on chromosomes; it is complex and varied. Trans people have the same variations as cis people, but their brains exhibit similar traits as their cis counterparts, while being in a body that exhibits similar sex characteristics as those on the opposing end of the spectrum. This is where the misalignment and dysphoria comes from. I’m obviously making something far more complex simplified.

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                There it is! Just a transphobe hiding behind ‘innocent’ questions. Oh boy do I got an easy solution for you

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                  Yeah when did this have anything to do with trans people? It was whether or not someone could identify what the signs were implying

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                  • Doesn’t answer the question
                  • Throws around meaningless phrases
                  • Blocks

                  The holy trinity of dumbasses

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                I’m a woman and I’ll even agree with you women should be able to make private spaces that let in only who the women inside choose - that’s not how public restrooms work however. I have no particular expectations when using a restroom beyond having a private stall to use for my self and others and that others mind their own business unless it’s to say something nice or helpful to someone else, I don’t actually care what their genitals, DNA, way of dress or body look like in anyway just that they follow bathroom decorum. If all bathrooms were just private ceiling to floor with doors that don’t have cracks around them and anyone was allowed to use them I think that would be ideal and help everyone because bathroom usage could be spread among a larger number of stalls, likely shorten the route to a bathroom if you don’t have to go searching for your gender and I say this as a person who use to use portable oxygen finding a toilet only for men when I was at my most sick knowing I had to dedicate more of my very limited energy to tracking down a woman’s bathroom sucked.

                You’re literally being ableist towards people like me, I have cystic fibrosis and was born disabled, because you think you can speak for women as a whole, don’t put words in women’s mouths. If you are a woman and you feel that way then speak for yourself don’t involve the rest of us, thanks.

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          Wait until your girlfriend gets harassed and almost raped in the womens bathroom by a “trans woman”, then we can discuss this non-inclusivity bullshit.

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            the problems id see:

            • obviously the harassment and attempted rape itself, regardless of genders involved
            • someone in a vulnerable group is punching down
            • the bathroom is not designed for universal privacy and safety (having proper walls)

            it happening in a bathroom would not be that much of a detail tbh

            also all my girlfriends are trans

            and cis men are the demographic most likely to be rapists, so vulnerable people (anyone who isnt a cis man) should be able to stay away

            so id want my girlfriends safe from them primarily because theyre a way bigger risk

            and also claiming that gendered bathrooms are safe because men (or, as seems to be the more common argument, cock havers) will want to rape women (which is taken to mean pussy havers rather than ppl who would be seen as women which is what would actually get them targeted), which erases non-heterosexuals (and being bi, gay, and straight are equally common among trans people), making segregation an invalid “solution”

            all genders (and sexes) are capable of rape, but cishet men are the most likely to do it, and a lot more of them are bi/gay than admit it, and also people might rape outside of their sexualities out of power dyamics

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            I’m sorry that happened to your girlfriend, but anyone is capable of rape. You seem to be fixating on the trans part because it affirms your biases.

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              Yes, but not anyone is normally allowed in the womens bathroom, or other “female zones”, if you will. Men don’t have anything to do in there. If you don’t pass as a woman, you shouldn’t be in there. Simple as that.

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                there shouldnt be “female spaces” just like how there shouldnt be “male spaces”

                whenever you see a “womens”/“women-only” thing, think of whether youd view it the same way if it were “mens”/“men-only”

                segregation should be universally illegal

                and genders are arbitrary and blurred anyway, and sexes are even more arbitrary

                you cant build functional restrictions around them

                also, as a nonbinary person, which bathroom do i go to

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                You ever stop to consider that maybe you don’t pass as your chosen gender to someone else? Let people use the public restrooms they want. Harassment and rape are crimes, police that all you want, but we don’t need idiots getting bent out of shape and causing confrontations in restrooms because they believe they know better than the individuals who choose to present as a gender.

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                  You ever stop to consider that maybe you don’t pass as your chosen gender to someone else

                  I don’t care. I don’t have to use the womans bathroom.

                  Let people use the public restrooms they want.

                  No. Women’s bathroom are for women. If you don’t agree with that very simple statement, I do not like you and any further conversation is pointless.

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              Because when you or someone close to you has been affected by it, you start to see things from another view than that ivory tower most of you live in.

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                I’m affected by it in the here and now, on a daily basis, by the policies that are implemented by fearful morons. Not by some imaginary “almost raped!!” nonsense that you’re bringing into it. You and people who think like you are the oppressors, not the oppressed.

                To think that when I say “let’s use actual signage” you cry rape is fucking ludicrous. Get the fuck out of here with these obviously disingenuous arguments.

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                  Worthless nonsense you’re spouting. I work as a bartender on weekends and I had 2 situations last month alone where some “trans woman” was harassing women in the bathroom. This is not some “imaginary nonsense” you claim. This is the reality hundreds of thousands, if not millions of women face every single day.

                  You’re not affected by it. You make yourself affected so you can collect internet points from people who live in similar ivory towers, not having to live with the outcomes of the decisions you propagate. You’re one of those politicians that told the public during covid: “No you REALLY gotta stay home, we do too, we all suffer together :((((” while celebrating private parties on some estates.

                  People like you disgust me. You are so deep into your own delusion you don’t see how you are actively harming women with your bullshit. You’re a misogynistic clown. End of story.

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    the flower has big labias. they couldve used an aristholcia plant, which looks like female genitals anyways.

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    Why does one door have a right handle and the otehr one a left one?

    Also, the fox knowledge infograph on the wall looks like AI… is the whole image AI?