First, the salmon and tuna fisheries are not sustainable. The bluefin tuna was on IUCN endangered list before it got controversially taken off the list in 2021 due to lobby from the fishing industry. Most salmon and tuna are “farmed” aquaculture. These aquaculture have really high environmental impact, as they dump a lot of toxic waste and antibiotics into ocean. They are also breeding ground for diseases that impact natural wild salmon and tuna population. Finally, they have adverse affects on traditional low impact, and often Native-owned fisheries.
Sushi is also incredibly BORING. It’s just raw fish on rice with no seasonings except for soy sauce and wasabi. All these environmental waste and destruction for a texture. Go eat some stir fry vegetables, tofu, and beans with actual seasonings. The non-boring sushi are all abominations of mayonaise, sweet soy sauce, and ultraprocessed fish paste like surimi made to cater to western burgereich palate. Vegetarian and vegan sushi options suck, they are just raw cucumbers and avocado on rice with these same abominations of mayonaise and ultraprocessed condiments. Non-japanese people who unironically enjoy sushi are all be pretentious, annoying shitlib, search your feelings Luke you know it’s true. Learn to cook real warm food with proper seasonings like actual humans, or at least appreciate food that takes actual artisanal skills to make like hand made dumplings and noodles. I’ve had enough of seeing people eat sushi, all these people should be shamed. Walahi when the proletarian Revolution came, we should issue a fatwa to make eating raw fish haram.
Vegetarian and vegan sushi options suck
Im gonna be real with with you and tell you this is entirely a skill issue
Yup, spicy sweet potato roll is s tier.
Steam sweet potato, mix in panko, hot sauce, roll with sushi rice and nori. Top with whatever mayo, eel, furikake, nothing etc
or a location issue. i’ve been to some pretty good vegan sushi places
and you better believe that when i make my own it tastes amazing. vegan caviar is great. king oyster mushroom “squid” too. konyaku sashimi works well too
I fucking hate mushrooms for the most part, and it’s usually a texture problem, but king oyster mushrooms are amazing
Post recipes lib
I had very good vegan sushi too with very flavorful tofu.
I would try it but I’m in an area where that’s not an option.
It’s just raw fish on rice with no seasonings
The rice is heavily seasoned tho and quite delicious in its own.
every time I see people go ew gross ultraprocessed foods idk i roll my eyes, you could call a pesto “ultra processed” that doesn’t mean it won’t be the dankest shit ever
My fave is how academics often classify sugar syrups as ultra processed but not honey. It’s uh centrifuged sugar syrup mate lol.
Nobody can agree on a useful definition and imo it’s more ideological than science. There’s clearly health effects from a diet high in prepacked foods (which tend to have bad micronutrient spread, low fibre, high salt, many preservatives, high sugar, saturated fats, simple carbs) but fingering the processing is misleading.
It really just seems to be a vibe based on how many steps removed you can argue something is from a straight- from- the- plant/animal ingredient
Like i can sell tomatoes straight from my containers apparently without a license or anything, but the second I cut them or cook them or can them apparently i need the state health inspector to do my kitchen because ah they’re processed
A lot of the time, if you look under the surface of someone railing against “processed foods” you find weird Nazi-adjacent purity fetishism
Did you know vegan food has chemicals in it?
UPFs are basically chemically engineered garbage. Processing isn’t necessarily bad. Steel cut and rolled oats are processed. It’s the chemical engineering that’s bad, and it’s as much as an issue as cigarettes.
Anything you say about fish is obviously true, but not exclusive to sushi. Eating animals is always indefensible, i don’t see why we even have to debate this. Everything else you say is not only the usual joyless, scolding “you’re not allowed to ever enjoy things” hexbear cringe, most of it is also just flat-out wrong.
All non-vegan food is reactionary.
Technically all food is reactionary.
Folxs, is it reactionary to remain alive?
Reasons why vegan, self made sushi is great:
- It’s cheap: rice, vinegar, veggies, nori and you’re gtg
- You can easily make a lot of it. Scaling up the process is simple.
- It takes time, so not for every day, but isn’t messy, which is ideal for an evening with friends: you make it together and talk and have fun while you do.
- Yes, it’s not overly flavored, but that’s because it’s originally just a side dish to enjoy with drinks, so you can actually taste both. If you need more flavor, you can add sauces to taste.
- It’s also good for packing cold lunch for a trip
Points I agree with as a non-sushi eater:
- Salmon and tuna fisheries are unsustainable, bad for the environment, and have adverse effects on Native-owned fisheries.
- Westerners who enjoy sushi, or rather Westerners who make a point out of the fact that they enjoy sushi, tend to be pretentious and annoying shitlibs.
- People should appreciate food that takes artisanal skill to make.
Regarding point 2: I used to be an annoying enough shitlib myself to watch Last Week Tonight with John Oliver, and I remember a bit in the 2021 episode about homelessness: John Oliver brought up NIMBYs in Claremont, Tovaangar rejecting affordable housing for homeless people as an example; and one of the Claremont residents interviewed was like, “How is that [an influx of formerly homeless people] going to impact crime? How is that going to impact the businesses out here? If they’re low income, are they going to be spending money at the sushi place, or, y’know, or not?” — and John was like, “Oh No! Not The Sushi Place™!!” — and I still hear that in my head every time I think about Western sushi, especially sushi culture in suburban Seppoland: People deathly afraid of homeless people spoiling their forgettable isolated plastic suburban mcmansion hellscape’s “”“image”“” as a “”“refined”“” and “”““multicultural””" place.
Points I’d bring up:
- Eating fish in general is cringe.
Points I disagree with:
- Sushi is boring and innately un-artisanal
- Cold food is unfit for human consumption
- Fusion cuisine made to cater to the Western palate is an abomination
I disagree with this because I don’t think it’s good to judge culinary traditions, even if we don’t like the people who eat it. But I’m also assuming this post is mainly made in jest anyways.
“Oh No! Not The Sushi Place™!!”
I never really thought about it, because sushi is basically just one step above fast food over here, but there really are people who think sushi is some kind of exotic fancy dish that shows how cultured they are for eating it.
There’s nothing wrong with fusion food. Noone can seriously argue that Pho is not infinitely better with jalapeno slices. I’m saying mayo slathered “modern” fusion sushi with potato chip flake is an abomination. Also traditional sushi is not supposed to be cold, it is supposed to be room temperature. This brings up another environmental disaster needed to accommodate the modern sushi industrial complex - refrigeration.
Refrigeration is a fair point to make. I had assumed that by “cold” you actually meant room temperature. However, my point about Hashtag No Food An Abomination still stands! You have listed various ingredients that you find abominable when put on sushi, but no explanation as to why they are abominable, aside from personal preference (and I don’t disagree that it sounds repulsive).
I mention this because I put “Burgerlanders have an unrefined palate” jokes on the same shelf as “white woman” jokes, i.e. that the jokes oftentimes come from a place of multiple (often internalized) prejudice, but slip past people’s defenses and come across as “woke” because they’re framed as if they’re punching up. I don’t necessarily want to be the fun police telling people that they can’t make jokes about Yankees eating slop, but I do want people to question what they see as “unrefined” or “abominable” food to begin with, and why they think of food in those terms.
It’s just raw fish on rice with no seasonings except for soy sauce and wasabi.
The reason why your post is so wrong is that sushi does not mean raw fish or fish. Sushi means vinegar rice. Sushi can be made without fish.
I like making vegan gimbap lol
I haven’t ever seen a more correct opinion on the internet before. Thank you so much.
First time I had sushi was last year. I’m vegetarian as of this year. It was fun while it lasted.
I think the vegetarian argument is a lot stronger than your palate argument.
Fish farms are also hideously cruel. Maybe even crueler than pig farms.
Fish are also usually left to die by suffocation after catching or collecting from farms.
Idk about the rest, I enjoy me some vegan sushi. It’s mostly textural and sweet-sour-umami, like a good salad I guess.
Wait till you learn what they feed them.
It’s mostly textural and sweet-sour-umami, like a good salad I guess.
Westerners aren’t even prepared for ham and pineapple pizza, their palate can’t handle that much
SPICE
I mean I’m white as you come, family is Irish and Polish peasants. Ancestrally I shouldn’t know that food beyond potatoes, cream, cheese, and sausage exists.
Turns out you can just eat things.
My theory is better than yours, simpler too!
Sushi is Japanese. Japan is a Hitlerite nation that prostrates itself to the Burgerreich. Therefore sushi is Hitlerite.
agree about fish farming but not being able to find good sushi with distinct taste might be a skill issue ngl
Location as well.
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The list of problems that need to be resolved before this
Like climate catastrophe? Hmm, good thing animal agriculture isn’t related to that.
Or maybe imperialism? The imposition of industrialized animal agriculture for export forced on the Global South by the imperial core can’t be important to that obviously.
The next inevitable pandemic? Animal agriculture definitely doesn’t play a part in the spread of infectious disease and increase the chances developing the next major virus to plague us.
Alienation of humans from nature and from each other? Nahh, no way that systems of violence and exploitation can be interlinked, they’re just animals after all, and that has no bearing on how we ignore the treatment of people or create hierarchies of care where those deemed subhuman can be entered into the beast category. No sirree, no history of colonialism treating people as animals.
Or maybe imperialism?
On this note, salmon in sushi is the result of a massive marketing campaign by the Norwegian fishing industry. It’s not indigenous to Japan whatsoever
