Are we done with this asshole? He was never a remarkable actor.
He also alleged to Channel 5 that “three gay dudes [were] next to me, touching my leg”, before the violence preceding his arrest.
“I [got] scared,” LaBeouf added. “I’m sorry – if that’s homophobic, then I’m that.”
Alternate headline, “Self admitted homophobe Shia LaBeouf doubles down on homophobia after assaulting three men.”
I guess we’re trying to revive gay panic?
Everything old is new again.
I mean he also shouted the f slur at them and they got it on video
No. But the men were likely not actually touching him.
Swap scared for hot and then guilty
Random question. If a woman was getting touched by 3 guys, would she be justified in getting violent towards them?
Random question. If a woman was getting touched by 3 guys, would she be justified in getting violent towards them?
No need to be coy like there is some double-standard. Lets add the context from the LaBeouf situation for your question for an apples-to-apples comparison:
If a woman was asked to leave a bar by an employee because they were harassing other patrons, then she punched the employee before leaving, then she returned later outside the bar and started punching another patron and headbutted a third while yelling at the men “say ‘Christ is Lord’! Say it! Say ‘Christ is Lord!’” would she be justified in this violent towards them?
I would say, no. No, she wouldn’t be justified.
I’m just replying to the text you quoted. If there is a lot worse context, why not quote that?
If people randomly start touching me, fists won’t be far behind. If that’s not actually what happened, it seems strange for that to be the part you quote.
Leg-touching is too low a threshold, and can happen inadvertently in a crowded venue. Grabbing your bits, that would be different.
My young adult daughter was groped in a crowded pub once and gave the guy a beatdown. Footswept him and kept knocking him down when he tried to get up, until the bouncers threw him out. There were witnesses, and he had escalated after she’d already told him to back off. There was no ambiguity about what he was up to. There were no charges. And this was in the UK, where throwing hands can get you an ABH or GBH charge if you carry matters even a little bit too far.
But that’s not what happened with LaBeouf. He was the aggressor, his defense was bullshit, and he took a plea.
So, do you spend a lot of time running scenarios through your mind about how violently you’re going to respond if a gay guy touches you?
I’m just replying to the text you quoted.
Seriously?!
If there is a lot worse context, why not quote that?
You’re replying to a post about an article. You’ve got the whole context if you bother to click on it.
Yes seriously. I replied to your comment, not the article.
Bullshit, seriously. I mean, this is almost textbook “whataboutism”, a decidedly dishonest debate tactic.
But what about whataboutism? Yes, attack my straw man, good! My strawman can beat up your strawman ! /s
The expected etiquette upon posting in a forum thread dedicated to an article is that each poster has at the very least read the article. Your post could have been the elaboration of oc’s post that stated the far worse offense to the shock of casual readers as opposed to detracting from the actual discussion.
To answer your question in earnest, yes, because a double standard enforced as a means of countering an existing inequality that society refuses to correct is a better, albeit not best, solution than blanket condemnation. Another example would be that a gay male being touched in a bar by straight men would also be within his rights to respond with violence as statistically gay men are more likely to be victimized by straight men than the other way around. For supporting example, see article above.
To clear up your misunderstanding, those were quotes by himself. He played it down and tried to frame himself as the victim.
That “random question” shit is extremely cringe.
Just going by the quote my guy. Nothing in the text that was quoted seems too crazy.
Read the fucking article
“Police arrested LaBeouf, 39, after he punched two men and head-butted a third” head butting someone is a lot though
Wait! He isn’t dead!
Shia Surprise, there’s a gun to your head,
and death in his eyes.
But you can do Jiu Jitsu!
Body slam superstar Shia LaBeouf.Legendary fight with Shia LaBeouf!
Normal Tuesday night for Shia LaBeouf!
You try to swing an axe at Shia LaBeouf!
But blood is draining fast from your stump leg.He’s dodging every swipe,
he parries to the left.
You counter to the right,
you catch him in the neck.
You’re chopping off his head now!
You have just decapitated Shia LaBeouf!He looks like he’s gonna to teach me how to post quality comments on the Internet with impeccable etiquette
CLASS is in session!
As a non-native speaker, I was confused about the battery charging.
“Assault” is a threat or attempt to harm someone. “Battery” is actually physical contact. Being “charged” in this context is being officially given criminal consequences, where you will have a court date and go to trial (or make a plea deal before trial).
“Assault” and “battery” are common-law terms that have been defined differently in different places. For example, in US states, some treat them as distinct, and others don’t.
In the UK, where common law originated, the definitions have been defined through centuries of case law and codified in legislation. The current state of play is this: https://www.lawcases.net/guides/assault-and-battery-in-english-law/
But in the US, you’d have to look at the law in the state where the offense occurred. Generally, assault has to be an immediate, actionable threat, and battery will have levels of severity starting with putting one’s hands on someone, up to actions causing different degrees of injury. And then there’s sexual assault, which has its own definition, but one which would be unlikely to encompass leg-touching.
In some states. This was a common Reddit distinction that isn’t true everywhere (but is here).
In Texas, it’s assault all the way down. Add a weapon, aggravated assault, etc.
Thanks 💖
I do know the words, I just never read them in that context, so I had to do the brain thing for a while.
It’s a specific legal term, most native English speakers get it wrong too, cause it’s not used in everyday conversation.
This should clear up any misunderstanding.
I… So many questions.
And all of them answered by the magic of live theatre. You’re WELcome.
Thats a hard 39, wtf is he doing to himself
…like physically? I’m a year younger and my hair is the same colour/I’ve been enjoying having a moustache.
Shia does a lot more drinking than I do but he’s also in better shape.
I shudder to think what you’d say about me if you think that’s a hard 39.
He kinda looks like Hunter Biden a lil from this angle
Getting arrested for bar fights apparently
JFC!! I don’t realize he and I were the same age wow he must be living hard
I still get carded and i near enough his decade
Actual asshole Shia LaDouche
We seem to have to change the song now…
“Running for your life (from Shia LaBeouf)
He’s brandishing a knife (it′s Shia LaBeouf)
Homophobic asshole
Hollywood shouldn’t hire Shia LaBeouf”Did he just do it?
That’s 100% a hate crime, but he won’t be punished proportionally because he is a celebrity.
Just been rewatching Parks and Rec for the millionth time, the Shia LaBouf wedding dress/jewellery gags have aged like milk.
Honestly, I think it was a fair guess at the time. Dude was 50/50 on which direction he’d go
https://www.instagram.com/jeffreydamnit/
One of the victims. Who could punch such a generous and giving person? I mean half the posts have Free LSD!
“I’d fuckin kiss him… I’d kiss his feet… … … Damn, stop asking me these questions, ANdrew…”
