Geopolitical scientist Gilles Gressani, co-founder of the magazine Le Grand Continent**, poses this** “paradox” in the latest book of his journal devoted to the enemies of Europe, while China represents “half of what matters in geopolitics and economics”.
Small moment of floating on the set of LCI, on May 28, during David Pujadas’ daily show." I ask you the question around this table: who can mention the name of three living Chinese today?", says the presenter to his guests, journalists Ruth Elkrief (LCI), Jean Quatremer (Libération), Pascal Perri (TF1/LCI) and Thierry Fabre (Challenges). Embarrassed silence. We are thinking. We rack our brains. “There is Xi Jinping, the president,” begins one of them. That will be all. To discover
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“There is a problem when cultured people, who are interested in international business, who read the press, have difficulty imagining the existence of three Chinese figures,” says Gilles Gressani, director of the magazine Le Grand Continent. It is he who, in the introduction of the latest book published by his magazine, L’Ennemi qui nous désigne (Gallimard, 2026), poses this “paradox”: China weighs “half of what counts in geopolitics and economics”, but no one is able to sing three names of living Chinese. “We continue to totally ignore what is happening” “It says something fundamental,” adds the essayist. “We live with mental representations that are those of the 20th century and the beginning of the 21st century. We still live in 2000, when in reality we are much closer to 2050.” The book, which brings together several texts by “renowned sinologists and key doctrinaries of Xi Jinping”, under the direction of the Italian-Swiss writer and political scientist Giuliano da Empoli, offers precisely an “exclusive file” on the Middle Kingdom. “If we feel such a vertigo in the face of the ongoing upheavals, it is perhaps because we still refuse to integrate a massive dimension of the contemporary: China,” plants the presentation of the volume.
Gilles Gressani invites you to look at the “impressive” figures: between 2018 and 2019 alone, China produced more cement than the United States throughout the 20th century, he says. In addition, “more than half of AI research is done in China”, and renewable energy installations are “vertiginous”. “However, we continue to completely ignore what is happening,” he notes.
Start with Mao and when they say he’s dead just look shocked and start sobbing uncontrollably.
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Xi Jingping, Chen Weihua, and Donnie Yen.
Hate to say it but hexbear is not great at proving this guy wrong when i see a lot of “Xi Jinping, Jackie Chan” in the comments
we can all benefit from watching more Chinese news (CGTN is mostly in English and you can find many other channels with subtitles) and more Chinese pop culture (many subtitled TV shows on youtube, and many recent movies on streaming sites. a lot of music on youtube and other services)
maybe I’ll make an effort thread about it with links and descriptions. but it’s equally likely i’ll forget about it ten minutes from now

EDIT: YAY I completed a task by focusing my brain on one thing
I mean I probably would have failed this test if you hit me with it live on the air but I’m also not pretending to be a China expert.
I will hold you to it! (I will also forget in 10 mins)
I’m doing it!
Hu Mei, director
Chen Jianbin, actor and director
Tian Xi Wen, actressdo I get extra credit for naming more?
Chen Jianbin, actor and director

Get all the credit you want, honestly, I didn’t even think there was a point system to this.
Quick! Name 3 people who aren’t Jackie Chan
Eilen Gu the skateboarder who made chuds seethe, Weili Zhang former UFC champ, and Shi Yuqi no1 ranked men badminton player, and I dont even watch sportsball
Speed Round
Hunter Biden
Queen Latifah
George RR Martin
You didn’t specify ethnicity
No mention of the goat Chen Weihua?
Without looking at the thread:
Politics:
- Xi Jinping - President
- Wang Huning - Chairman of the National Cmte (?) something like that
- Li Qiang - Premier
- Zhao Lijian - Some kind of diplomat with twitter
- Hu Juntao - Former president
Business:
- Jack Ma - Alibaba
- Robin Li - Baidu
Art/Entertainment:
- Jackie Chan
- Yao Ming
- Ai Weiwei
- Jeremy Lin
- Jet Li
- Chow Yun Fat
- Steven Chow
- Michelle Yeoh
- Zhang Ziyi
- Fan Bingbing
- Yan from Little Chinese Everywhere
Michelle Yeoh is Malaysian FYI.
Oh interesting, I guess I assumed from the name. There are many Malaysians of Chinese descent, but I thought looking them up would be cheating for my list lol
Yeah, no worries. My gf is Chinese-Malay and her mum worships Michelle Yoeh. Only reason I know.
President Xi, Artist Wei Wei, and actor Jackie Chan.
Libs boutta be mad but Tsai Ing-wen (governor of the province of Taiwan), John Lee (representative of the district of Hong Kong), and the Dalai Lama (cultist in the territory of Tibet)
the Dalai Lama
you were supposed to name them, try again sweatyTenzin something? Gyatso?
Gyatso
i am not clever enough so i will not try
We rack our brains. “There is Xi Jinping, the president,” begins one of them.
I’m imagining this discussion happening very publicly in American media and someone argues that Gordon Chang is a Chinese national as the second suggestion.
Well Gordon Chang is the CPC’s top undercover agent so I think that’s fair.
In 2016 Republican primary candidates could barely name any American women they weren’t related to.
Here's how each one responded:
Rand Paul: Susan B. Anthony
Mike Huckabee: My wife
Marco Rubio: Rosa Parks
Ted Cruz: “I wouldn’t change the $10 bill, I’d change the 20” with Rosa Parks
Ben Carson: My mother
Donald Trump: Daughter Ivanka and Rosa Parks
Jeb Bush: Margaret Thatcher — “probably illegal, but what the heck”
Scott Walker: Clara Barton
Carly Fiorina: “I wouldn’t change — I think honestly, it’s a gesture.”
John Kasich: “I would pick Mother Teresa.”
Chris Christie: “The Adams family has been shorted in the currency business.”
This is probably a contraversial take but if you could keep them all in a zoo where they couldn’t harm actual living people, republican politicians would probably be seen as endearing, like gibbons or panda bears.
“You call yourself an apex predator, but look like this?
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Chris Christie: “The Adams family has been shorted in the currency business.”
This is Lily Munster erasure
they go “xi jingping, kim jong and jackie chan”.
Jackie Chan, Jet Li and Tu Youyou.
… Is Tu Youyou still alive?
yeah it’s amazing not one of these people could name jackie chan
Yup. Tu Youyou’s still alive
nobody in this thread mentioned Jack Ma yet and I had to double check if he was still alive
It’s kind of a hard question because Chinese names seem harder for English speakers to remember. I read science articles by Chinese authors all all the time, and the names don’t stay with me nearly as easily as Western-style names do. That’s why people like Jack Ma and Lisa Su anglicize their names, in all likelihood. Michelle Yeoh is also easy to remember (someone already mentioned Jackie Chan). Chow Yun-Fat came to me after a while, but I had to check his name and also that he was still alive. We unfortunately lost Chen-Ning Yang and Tsung-Dao Lee both quite recently, at well-advanced ages. Yao Ming is still around, retired from basketball, but owner of the Shanghai Sharks last time I looked.
Present-day Chinese political figures other than Xi: yes I’m also drawing a blank.
I think Michelle Yeoh is Malaysian
She is indeed
I’m pretty sure indeed is a platform for posting and applying to jobs, not a Malaysian actress.
She is, indeed.
As a Chinese politician (other than comrade Xi) I thought of Victor Gao, then I checked the web (Yandex search) and Deep Seek and it seems he has no direct role in government.
At least he is a living Chinese person. I can also name comrade Xi, Jack Ma, and Hu Yeh, a scientist named in a news article I read months ago. I remember his name because it has obscure funny connotations for me.
Hu Jintao.
Yeah I’ve heard that name, but would not have remembered it. I also didn’t remember the name of Taiwan’s current president who is in the news now and then.
I’ve had various Chinese co-workers (US tech sector) over the years and I do remember their names, but most of them were anglicized. I’m going to presume that the initial challenge only counts Chinese people currently living in China, so e.g. Jensen Huang and Lip-Bu Tan don’t count.





















