It will well and truly be dead and gone once old.reddit.com stops working. It remains the one good way to view the site, regardless of device.
My theory is that they realize that a significant number of power users on the site are still using old.reddit.com, so they are keeping it going because getting rid of it would turn the website into a ghost town. They will continue to push their app and new website because they can push more advertising through it to the people that are just there to consume.
You think there are still redditors around?
I think it’s just troll farms and bots. Every once in a while someone stumbles into the site and says something. THEN there is a whirlwind of answers/speculations/theories/lies.
A.I is running the show. If I use a certain word or phrase I get filtered. If I say the exact same thing without those “catch phrases” then I see a few votes.
I treat the site as a test site for trying language that gets PAST the trolls.
One thing I’ve noticed lurking on AITA is that there’s suddenly more people casually talking about being religious. Not like overtly preaching like you’d see in the past, but more people referencing going to church or doing things for religious reasons.
It just seemed out of place and weird. Like the tone of that part of the internet suddenly changed. It’s still more liberal than conservative, though that conflict seems to be mostly just not present, perhaps in part because of their rule against political topics, though even when some slip through, it does seem to lean more liberal or even progressive than conservative. Like plenty of abortion support, no broad support for tribal or hierarchical judgements. But it suddenly seems more religious. Christian, specifically.
While church attendance is NOW declining rapidly?
I suspect a Christian troll farm at work here. They NEED to indoctrinate at an early age to survive.
They can’t use FACTS, their bible doesn’t have any good ones.
As a history nerd there are a lot of pretty good facts in the bible, and there are lots of things that are actually historically accurate. So no I wouldn’t say there aren’t any good facts
You think there are still redditors around?
I think it’s just troll farms and bots. Every once in a while someone stumbles into the site and says something. THEN there is a whirlwind of answers/speculations/theories/lies.
I guess it depends on where you look. All the subs I’ve been visiting where people actually hang out, rather than just a handful of karma farmers spamming, are still flourishing*, so I never fully switched to Lemmy, but use both 🤷 Reddit subs have a magnitude or two more people, so imho they’re better for news, memes and technical advice, while for the past couple years Lemmy feels better for insightful conversations.
* my main subs are for specific games and apps, a few countries/regions, and r/BestofRedditorUpdates, so ymmv
I think the bot percentage is proportional to how big a subreddit is and how profitable influencing people browsing it is.
Niche community about how to proplift (stealing small cuttings to grow your own plants)? Zero or close to zero bots.
Crypto community with thousands of comments a day, where it’s all speculation that can’t be objectively disproven* so bots stick out like a sore thumb and tons of money flying around? You better believe the bots are all over that.
There’s no objective data to confirm or dispel your suspicion that there are
zerofew human Redditors (your hyperbole aside).There’s definitely tons of bots posting and voting (and likely always has been), but I really doubt a large percentage of commenters are bots.
- A non-bot redditor
There’s no objective data to confirm or dispel
You are correct. I have been paying attention to this for a few YEARS now. It is just MY observation of events I have seen. It is NOT my opinion, it is MY direct observation.
Clearly more study is needed. By THIS administration? NEVERMIND!
Why do you think you’re able to detect a bot by their Reddit comments? I strongly suspect you’re assuming low-effort, poorly-written comments are bots, when in reality they’re probably just dumb people.
I am 72 years old and I have been on Reddit for 20 years.
I can tell when key words are suppressed by posting the same thing without using those key words.
I’m not just watching what they say, I’m watching what they do, and how FAST they do it.
I’ve been on Reddit for decades too, and I disagree with you.
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Assuming that a post wasn’t made and made visible because it has key words that were censored isn’t based on logic; you’re guessing.
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I type fast enough that to a 72 year old it might look like magic or a bot.
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Sadly this is (very popular, according to comments here and on Reddit) copium. old.reddit.com visits are a rounding error, per the traffic stats of the normie subreddit I moderate:
Most people simply do not have the technical acumen and tenure on Reddit to know to type in that subdomain. As always, relevant XKCD (posted today on Lemmy, funnily enough):
I said it in another response, it isn’t visits I’m talking about, it’s about who generates content on the website and what percentage of those users use old.reddit.
It isn’t copium either, we are speculating why Reddit keeps up the old version at all, after all this time they must have some analytics that it would significantly harm the site to disable it.
I don’t have any evidence either way as far as who uses old.reddit to submit versus who doesn’t, and I don’t think there is any.
Old reddit still has screens and moderation tools that haven’t been rebuilt. It’s kept on life support for mods right now.
from what I heard and saw from some mods (who can see the statistics on the old.reddit usage), it’s less than 10%, sadly.
the vast majority is using the shitty new design
Or the app exclusively, and probably aren’t aware of the web interface at all.
Reddit went full Facebook by making it more accessible to the general public, with the predictable Eternal September results.
I keep seeing people saying that Reddit will be dead when this or that happens. I’ve seen a handful of those things come to pass already and reddit it doing just fine.
Most people don’t care. They will continue using it. It will survive.
Reddit is doing fine and Reddit is fine are two different things.
Most users complain consistently about it. That’s not a good sign for them.
Their popular posts don’t get as many upvotes/comments as they used to. There’s definitely a decline in usage.
It’s being overrun by bots.
Tons of people are getting bot banned off the platform.
It’s not like it’s going to just disappear anytime soon. But I’ve seen this many times before. It’s a dying platform. But it’ll be a slow death. And by death I mean it’ll just become irrelevant compared to other platforms. It’ll probably never actually go away. No one I know uses Facebook anymore. It used to be HUGE. We ALL used it. Now it’s a ghost town on my feed. I’ve messaged people and never got a response and run into them at a birthday or something months later and “Oh sorry, I don’t check it anymore”. It’s still there, but may as well not be. That’s Reddit’s future.
Sadly this is (very popular, according to comments here and on Reddit) copium. old.reddit.com visits are a rounding error, per the traffic stats of the normie subreddit I moderate:
Most people simply do not have the technical acumen and tenure on Reddit to know to type in that subdomain. As always, relevant XKCD (posted today on Lemmy, funnily enough):
The enshittification continues.
until morale improves, right?
That dumbass app was enough reason why I’m here.
I’d say it’s responsible for at least 75% of us being here!
I’m pretty of the other 25% who came here because we got banned for saying something that offended someone’s feefees. I honestly couldn’t be happier.
Maybe its too on the nose to say so on Lemmy, but fuck Reddit right in the earhole. Their pearl-clutching, risk-averse, pro-corporate moderation-bot and tattle-tale system was the last straw.
You forgot to mention their being the cuckold of Israel, or perhaps the Gimp. Fuck Reddit better dead than Reddit is a username says on here.
I will not install their app. Period.
I hope it ends up pushing more people here!
👋 hello it’s me
At the same time, I’m worried the community will worsen. I feel this is the only place left that feels like old internet.
It will get different, of course, with more people. But it won’t suffer the worst curse of Reddit and Digg: unaccountable, fascist corporate admins. If the admins hadn’t become politically captured ban-happy assholes, I’d still be there.
It’s pushing this user to not use them any more.
Starts? Didn’t this happen like a month or two ago?
You guys are still using reddit?
“These users are already familiar with Reddit and we’ve seen that the experience is much better for them in the app. The app offers a more personalized experience and users can more easily find communities that match their interests.”
Lmao. The personalization is exactly what I don’t want, so fuck off. Also, it’s pretty easy to circumvent. I’m sure there’s multiple ways, but I just go to old reddit.
They’ll kill old Reddit eventually
And then the site will effectively die
I wouldn’t mind if they did it soon tbf. That way I would find other ways to pass the time at work
That sentiment reminds me of this:
It’s just websites. I’m not downloading your shitty app to look at your website. That’s what a browser is for.
Fuck Reddit, fuck spez, fuck all the mods on that site. Nuke it from orbit
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They’re gonna shut down old reddit
Day they do that is the day I never go back to Reddit.
That day should’ve come and gone my friend. Actively avoid it!
I would love to be 100% Lemmy but there’s still a lot more users and discussions on Reddit. It’s getting better, but it’s not yet at critical mass for me
I don’t visit Reddit out of principle. I don’t care that there are more discussions and more fun content and game dev updates and stuff there that I’m missing. I mourn the loss, but I will never go back and visit Reddit. Mustn’t give them traffic.
I don’t blame you. I’m not quite at that point yet, but I’m not far off.
If they kill or nerf Old Reddit I’ll probably be done.
Understandable. It’s a big step to take.
It’s liberating though. Like a recovering alcoholic able to say they are sober without relapsing. 😄
I don’t have a problem! I can stop whenever I want! :P
Thing is- I don’t use reddit for ‘scrolling’, mainly for participation in various discussions. That makes it a lot harder to replace…
Good.
The more of this they do, the more people move to federated sites.
We don’t want them.
Next, they will stop allowing to register with random email without confirmation
Edit: jut found out they already did it lol. Then next step will be to require phone number for all new accounts
They used to not require email at all. Did that change?
old.reddit works fine~
This also worked for me for the longest time. I recently stopped using Reddit (as we all should) but if you gotta use it at least use old.reddit.com/r/subredditname
The second old.reddit goes away, I have a feeling a lot of people will jump off reddit. Probably why they haven’t killed it yet
They know they can’t kill old.reddit directly yet thats why theyre pushing all of these new features like removing mail for live chat etc.
I am curious, do you know why they can’t kill it? The only reason I can think of is that “new” reddit requires access or something?
Huge PR nightmare for little gain
