My parents legitimately believe ivermectin is a cure all and are stockpiling it. They take it for just about anything. They also believe plenty of other wacky things like viruses don’t exist and cancer is just a fungal infection.
My dad last year nearly lost his foot after it got infected. They let it fester for months and only treated it with like essential oils or some other pseudoscience. He eventually had to go to the emergency room and stay at the hospital and receive antibiotics. 🙄
And immediately saw the error in his ways? Absolutely not. These people get sick to the point of dying. Go to the emergency room and get healed through real medicine and the efforts of a dozen nurses and a doctor or two. Then they leave and brag to their friends and family “see told you I’d be fine” and never give credit to the REAL medicine that fixed the issue.
Many of my relatives are diehard MAGA. So, when Trump said not to wear masks or quarantine, my aunt and her husband and son went out of their way to basically spend every second they could at superspreader events. They were warned it was dangerous, not restricted in any way, but still felt the need to act out to validate political feelings.
Naturally, they all caught COVID in the early days. My uncle and cousin both passed, leaving my aunt as a devastated shell of a woman. When we would see each other at family dinners she would usually just sit with a far-off, forlorn look. Every once in a while she would tune in for a bit to spout some pro-Trump bullshit. I wanted to scream “He helped to kill your family!”
I decided to just stop spending time with these people before I said something I would regret.
But would you really regret screaming ‘he helped to kill your family’? I think it would be awesome … unless there’s a significant inheritance at stake.
The woman’s mind is broken. She’s a cult victim. If she’s not actively harming OP, why would being cruel help now? She’s already killed her husband, in her mind. She’s fucked already.
She’s already killed her husband, in her mind
Are you sure? Sounded like she might still be in denial.
I’m a bit baffled by the upvotes on this.
I get it, I’m also furious at the MAGA crowd, but, considering this actually happened, I just feel sorry for that woman.
Losing your family must be horrible either way and if that doesn’t make her reflect, do you think yelling at her will?
You wouldn’t yell at a mentally disabled person, I hope, that’s basically who you’re dealing with.
If that mentally disabled person was killing people? Yeah, I’d yell at them. Other people dying doesn’t mean anything to these people because they don’t care about other people. The only thing they understand is themselves
The problem is that American politicians are gutting the school system because they WANT more mentally disabled people. “I love the poorly educated” - DJT. People like this lady, who will manslaughter their families for Trump, are spreading his propaganda. I don’t care how sad she is, if she’s spreading his propaganda and telling other people to go through the same tragedy. Someone needs to speak up and stop the cycle of pointless deaths.
Mentally disabled or not, these people are destroying the country. They are hurting lots of other people. They should know better. They have made a choice to be that way and refuse to change even with the brutal consequences made very clear. If they won’t see reason they deserve ridicule.
We don’t say ‘oh the poor Nazis, they were mentally disabled’ - no, we fought them and sacrificed big time to destroy their evil ways.
“See? Told you I’d be fine.”
“Dad, you need to take off your leg to go through airport security.”
Nothing says ‘we learned nothing’ like speedrunning the exact same miracle-cure discourse all over again.
Even with the best medical care, Hantavirus has a 20% fatality rate.
Let’s just hope that conservatives continue being so anti-vaccine… a few more pandemics with human-transmissible highly-fatal viruses and maybe we can get that socialist utopia that the right always cock-blocks us from achieving.
Last time I checked, most Democrats are pro-vaccine and very pro-capitalist.
Democrats are not “of the left”, they are actually right-lite.
Aside from a tiny handful of Dems like AOC and Bernie - who would be classified as solid centrists in any other country - there are no politicians “on the left” anywhere at the Federal level.
Yeah, I agree with you, but Democrat “right-lite” (or whatever you want to call them) are still getting their shots.
This doctor was previously suspended for vaccine misinformation and now has a complaint against her by the texas medical board for numerous violations of professional conduct, including prescribing medication without ever meeting or examining a patient.
She filed a defamation lawsuit against the hospital which she lost. Ouch. Best of luck to her in keeping her certification, and in finding a new job! She should become trumps personal dr.
Screw all of this wacky, inconsistent, cynical medical advice. Bring barbers back!
In the US, people don’t go to the doctor when they have a problem, they go as a last resort because they have to ask themselves how much it would cost.
18% of Americans haven’t ever seen a doctor and 40% of Americans haven’t seen one for 5 years.
A number of studies in low income communities in the south show that over 60% of people in those communities have intestinal parasites. That’s just the ones we know of.
One thing we know for sure is that ivermectin is about as magic as they say it is for parasites only. It’s a fantastic drug for that.
Over 60% of low income citizens would likely feel much better after getting their parasites removed from ivermectin. So what they are seeing, seems true. They could be sick from something else but get rid of a long standing comorbidity of a pariste infection, you bet they are feeling good. They just think that relief from the varied symptoms from parasite is actually something else cured.
This ivermectin religion has real miracles, it’s just not the ones they think they are. This belief is entirely created because Americans don’t have healthcare. That’s why this belief isn’t found elsewhere.
They could be sick from something else but get rid of a long standing comorbidity of a pariste infection, you bet they are feeling good. They just think that relief from the varied symptoms from parasite is actually something else cured.
Pretty much this, although it seems freeing the immune system from fighting the worm infection really does help it in fighting the Coronavirus infection: https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/ivermectin-much-more-than-you-wanted (Ctrl+F “The Synthesis”).
TL;DR: Studies showing a positive effect from Ivermectin on Covid came mostly from areas with high worm infection incidence, areas with low incidence showed no or smaller positive effect.
NB: Link is a selfhosted Substack, works better with JavaScript turned off.Doesn’t even need to be eliminated parasites.
“I am solving the problem by taking the medicine, and I am smart because I’m using a secret medicine they don’t want me to know about” causes the brain to release the good feelings chemicals which does make you feel better.
In the US, people don’t go to the doctor when they have a problem, they go as a last resort because they have to ask themselves how much it would cost.
In Estonia it’s sorta the same except a visit costs nothing for the GP and 20 euros for the initial visit to a specialty doctor (subsequent visits are free).
We just don’t go to the doctor because we’re stubborn as fuck and “it’ll heal on its own”.
18% of Americans haven’t ever seen a doctor and 40% of Americans haven’t seen one for 5 years.
What the fuck? Have you a source for those numbers because they’re shocking
Hmm looks like some stats I pulled were from polls, and I fell victim to people paraphrasing that around 20% of rural people not having a primary care doctor in the last few years as “not even having seen a doctor” sorry about that.
40% of Americans haven’t seen a doctor in 5 years: https://studyfinds.org/americans-avoiding-the-doctor/ https://www.aarp.org/pri/topics/health/coverage-access/health-care-rural-america/?
But the limited stats on primary care and a lot of self reporting is very bad.
62% parasites infection: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2023.01.10.23284404v1.full
Typing in “southern united states rural primary care access” in Kagi has a lot of sad results.
Thank you! They are some wild numbers.
You got the fucking receipts
I haven’t seen a doctor in at least a decade and a half, when my parents took me to checkups as a child. I’m very lucky to be healthy, and am in the gym 3-5 days a week to keep my streak going as long as possible.
However, I’m calling bullshit on this:
A number of studies in low income communities in the south show that over 60% of people in those communities have intestinal parasites. That’s just the ones we know of.
That sounds insane to me. 60% is a motherfucking epidemic. Where’s the source for these studies???
Former Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene
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Invermectin does that in vino. BUT In vitro, inside an actual human body, the amount of ivermectin required to create that effect will kill tHe patient. So no, its just not a viable treatment.
In vitro is in the lab, literally “in glass” (e.g. a petri dish or test tube). In vivo is in the living organism. In vino I guess not very much survives at all, the ethanol concentration is too high.
You swapped your latins
Edit: if this was mastermind, you went from yellow yellow to green gray
Veni, Vidi, Versace
Invermectin does that in vino.
in vino.
What does wine have to do with it?
And is it white or red wine, or can we run with just any old plonk?
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Remember, if a drug kills a threat in a petri dish, so does a handgun.
IMO, this is one of the consequences of not having universal health insurance that isn’t talked about enough. If the bar for going to the doctor is “about to lose a limb from infection”, then people become vulnerable to pseudo-scientific garbage, simply because they hardly ever receive advice from actual medical professionals.
This is one my comment talking point. When people have to think about “can I afford this?” anytime they need to goto the doctor, then they’ll only go when it’s serious. But they are not qualified medical professionals to decide what needs medical attention or not. So they seek advice from other people, past experiences and Internet and we have this problem.
Honestly, it shouldn’t cost that much to just goto a doctor’s office and return. We don’t need MD for everything, have other professional people there that are qualified enough to tell you when something doesn’t need attention, or simple solutions. Maybe just cleaning a scrap, or giving you a brace for minor sprain, all those without having to see MD.
We need to go back to printed almanacs
I really hope we don’t have a pandemic. Hentavirus has a 30% death rate. Being against masks, against vaccines, having fadigue of lockdowns would kill at of people
We won’t. This virus is only transmitted in close contact. None of the the science-based community I follow are worried, so I’m not worried.
