It’s baffling that, after nearly 20 years of ios, Apple still won’t let you easily place apps where you want them.

  • emmanuel_car@fedia.io
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    I’m baffled as to why Apple still won’t let users simply tap and hold an app and put it wherever they want.

    I’m not sure I get the issue? iOS has been able to do this for a while now, I just tested to make sure I’m not going crazy, but I can indeed put an app on an empty page in the middle of the screen. I get the issue with the folders running away from the app you’re trying to drop into it, that is frustrating design, but also the app-shunting behaviour is a non-issue for me, because the apps move back into place once you drag the app past the shunted once.

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    Still waiting for the “Close All Apps” button that seemed like a no brainer from day one.

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        Because I have the ability to close apps, and the only way to close them all if I so choose to is to swipe my finger up 20+ times, all while there’s plenty of room on the screen to have a button option to close everything.

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          And worsen your battery life? It costs more to constantly close and reinitialize apps than it does to let iOS handle them itself.

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            Yes; sometimes there are reasons to close them all down. I generally find it’s faster to reboot the phone, which takes significantly more battery power.

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        Cuz I want to be in control of what’s open where.

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          Then wouldn’t you prefer to be on iOS where apps are automatically managed and don’t waste your battery by constantly opening/closing them? Where background tasks are limited and managed rather than just given access to essentially do whatever they want?

          • Em Adespoton@lemmy.ca
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            That would be great. However, it will never happen. Software has bugs, developers make assumptions. Kill switches are simple solutions that are easy to implement.

            Also: which uses more battery: having a bunch of apps in the background, or having no apps in the background except recently used ones?

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              Having no apps in the background except recently used ones

              This is exactly what iOS does seamlessly. The unused apps’ memory is dumped to disk and when you come back to it later it’s moved back into memory.

              Going through all the apps and swiping up to close them is a habit that comes from early Android users and is completely unnecessary on iOS. It’s been that way for a long, long long time, so long that I would guess iOS 3 or 4.

              • Em Adespoton@lemmy.ca
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                That’s an overly simplified version of what it does; any app with background app callouts will be polling in the background… but only after it has been launched in certain circumstances. If something messes up in the app logic, that issue gets cached to storage and recovered to working memory when background or foreground functionality is called. There are two ways to fix this: kill the app, or reboot the phone (or respring if you’re jailbroken). If you know some background app is misbehaving but you don’t know which one, you can either kill them all one by one, or reboot. Killing them all would be the more efficient solution.

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    It can be frustrating at times, especially with folders, but on android too and now you CAN put any app wherever you want, so I don’t understand the whole point. Apple will miss him dearly I guess? Lol

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    I feel like they tried with the update that lets you place an icon below or to the right of an empty space. But it doesn’t work well because it was never designed to work that way.

    Even with Android (which has always let you do this), it does dumb shit, like wanting to create a folder when you move an icon where another one is.

    It’s not hard to place icons where you want them, but it can be tricky. The best thing to do is take all the icons off your Home Screen. I’m not sure if there’s an easy way to do that. I’d go to the home screen manager (long press home screen, edit in top left, tap the (…) (home screen indicator), then try to delete home screens. Barring that… go into edit mode (aka wiggle mode), long press one, start to move it, and hold it with the finger… then with another finger, tap other icons to “stack” them. You should be able to delete them all (per home screen) relatively quickly. Then… add icons… one at a time, from the library. First build out your first page, then the next one, and so on.

    If you’re (they’re) gonna threaten to go back to Android, make it over the keyboard. Here’s why. Apple actually changes what you type. They only do it in a few instances. Like if you type “kill yourself” on an iPhone, it’ll change “yourself”. There are things it doesn’t like you to say. Or it’ll change it to something else. It likes to change “Android” to “advertise,” for example. It also likes to change “and” to “Abe” (no, I don’t know anyone named that). Now, these are all minor annoyances you can get around. The sponsored switches vary from person to person and not everyone gets them… but the ones like “Android” and “kill yourself” I think are more universal. There are a lot of “sensitive” things it just doesn’t let you say. So you have to wonder, if the political system gets worse, if it’s gonna stop you from saying other “sensitive” things. I don’t really see Google/Gboard ever doing that. And Apple always has, I mean even before the current administration, they’ve tried to put their hands in what we type because you really shouldn’t say certain things online. And it’s not their job. I mean like what if I want to write a story. The keyboard doesn’t check if you’re on Facebook or if you’re in Pages. It just censors. And it shouldn’t. And I don’t think Android does. Should I stipulate “Yet”?

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      It definitely doesn’t want to type ‘kill yourself’ and will suggest anything but the intended words until you manually type them out, and I’ve noticed it doing the same with other violent words/phrases, as well the well-known ‘fuck’ -> ‘duck’ stuff.

      That said, it does adapt over time with usage and my iPhone will now happily curse like a sailor without putting up a fuss.

      No issues typing Android here either, so that one doesn’t seem universal.

      • CerebralHawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Yeah it’s weird, it’ll let me type “shit” or “bitch” most of the time, but not always and not too often.

        I have to reset my keyboard about once a year because of dumb shit. The current dumb shit is apparently “the” is a bad word. It’s fine capitalised, and it will change “the” to “The” a lot. Or it’ll change it to “they” or “then”. I have no idea why.

        I really wish iOS had an “I’m an adult and I don’t have kids and I also don’t use social media” mode, but that’s a very rare niche among their user base. Still, I think most of us would prefer it wouldn’t second guess us and change what we type? Because that’s really fucking dystopian.