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    I know this is meant to refer to eating the paper but what if someone ate the food. Like munching on celery while ICE pulls you out your window.

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    Don’t WORRY! Their Leaders are EAGER and WILLING to Protect them in ANY way Possible!

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      and don’t thing because the US is hosting world sport events they are any different than Germany at that time, because Germany held the Olympics in 1936, at the height of their nazi power

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    It’s unbelievable that Minnesota Dems are trying to push though some of the worst gun grabbing legislature of the century. At the time nazis are literally at the front steps.

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      I think that tells you everything you need to know… It’s a big club and you ain’t in it! Time to form a new party for the working class.

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    Still waiting for US citizens to organize a nationwide strike that doesn’t end until ICE terror ends. What’s it gonna take?

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    This is what your grandparents fought and died for to prevent from ever happening again.

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      Too bad our government was just like, we’ll pardon your war crimes and forget you’re a Nazi if you’re good at science and can help us do science things better than other countries!

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        Pretty much everyone has done this historically, fuck even Rome did it. Smart people are often times worth their weight in gold especially if they made life annoying for you and your army, so they basically fall into the category of war loot.

        Also it’s usually a either you join us or we kill you situation.

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          The history of denazifying Germany shows that the Allies were torn on this.

          To summerize:

          Russia “Okay, let’s kill all the Germans.”
          Britain “Oh, but then we’re no better than them. We must make due process for all the Nazis.”
          USA “Yeah, I don’t think either of you understand the scale of this.”

          And the Americans was right. A due process would have taken centuries, and nobody wanted to pay for it.

          So that’s why the Nuremberg trials only reached the top of the iceberg and millions of Nazis got away with no other punishment than memories of shame.

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            We actually kind of have the alternative to that as well. In Iraq the US took all members of the Baath party of Hussein. It was very clearly a horrible organization, which commited genocide and many other crimes, but doing so removed all sorts of people from power, which had usefull skills and kind of needed to be party members. For example when you built roads, you really need engineers in the government to check if that road is actually going to be built correctly. Even worse they through the secret service and military members into the same prison as islamic terrorists. So when the US left Iraq, those terrorists got access to people with a very particular set of skills.

            Really the only way to go about it, is to built up the alternative in the back, trial the worsed cases and keep the Nazis or whatever other evil group from gaining power.

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    Actually heard from a colleague there that he was actively doing just that, at least a few weeks ago. Complete with the cloak and dagger about coordinating it offline and avoiding active patrols and protests that would similarly draw too much attention.

    Yes, awfully 1930s German scenario that happened there.

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    What the actual fuck. This is straight from Anne Frank’s diary, just change their coats.

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    The correct answer is… “I’m getting groceries, show me a judicial warrant or fuck off.”

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          Yeah, we did, and the people who purposefully threw the election rather than compromise one bit with what the people wanted are responsible.

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            And yet we are the ones to suffer the consequences. Who cares who’s “responsible”? What matters is who is affected.

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              Because if you want anything to change, the pressure has got to be applied in the right direction. If people just keep blaming their neighbours, of course no politician will ever feel like they have to do anything to improve things.

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          But hey, at least they didn’t get Kamala Harris, who would somehow been worse than literal fascism

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      The right: these extremists decide elections so we’ll make it our whole platform again

      The left: these extremists decide elections so we’ll blame them again

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            Nobody thinks that.

            Some of them think that it would have eventually reached this point anyway, if not under this republican administration, then the next one. And there’s a good case for that.

            Others think you can’t sign on to far worse atrocities that just happen to be perpetrated elsewhere in the world, no matter what, because you are then personally complicit. Also a valid viewpoint.

            The performative cruelty that this administration is practicing is genuinely a new low, it’s true. But the burden of doing something about it was and is on people with institutional power, not random ordinary people. The democrats could easily have won the election and they chose not to, and after the trump team, they are the ones to blame next.

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              The people that voted for Trump are first to blame. People that didn’t vote are second. It’s that simple. There are reasons why a person may have decided not to vote, but none of them change that fact that not voting was effectively a vote for Trump. I view non voters a small step above Trump voters. They at least have the same level of intelligence and critical thinking skills as one another.

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                Just so you know, you’re replying to .ml there. I mean, I agree, but reasoned discussion isn’t going to win out with the leftist leftists that ever lefted.

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                  Yea, I saw that after processing the comment. Still, I want people that may be unaware and read the comment chain to understand the reality. Silence is complacency.

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                Do third party voters come in between those two options or after “didn’t vote”?

                Seriously, it’s all true. It is the fault of Trump Voters, the DNC, 3rd party voters, and non-voters.

                Hell, I’ll go one further and say those who do nothing but vote for the most progressive Dem in the primary and then vote for the Dem no matter who it is AND that is all they have ever done to address how terrible the Dem party is, also share in the blame.

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                not voting was effectively a vote for Trump

                That’s totally fallacious. Not voting is not voting. The only way to arrive at that conclusion is that you think that one specific party is by default entitled to votes, no matter what they do, which is wrong. Politicians have to earn votes. They chose a platform which was not popular and so they lost. And they did that to protect specific interests.

                I do get being upset at people who are nominally on your side but decided not to vote. It’s understandable. But in no way are they anywhere near as much to blame as the people who had a more than two billion dollar marketing budget for their political campaign and decided “fuck what the people want”.

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                  With the way our first past the goalposts system works, it’s true. By not voting you’re saying that you’re fine with either outcome.

                  When one of those options has straight up told you they’ll be a dictator on day one and you’ll never vote again, as well as publishing their playbook on how they’re going to do it, choosing to not vote against them is saying you’re fine with it.

                  And it’s not like protest voting actually hurt the DNC. It just hurt every vulnerable person in the country.

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                  No it’s fact. Not voting supports the less good candidate 100% of the time in FPtP.

                  And yes, non voters are more responsible for this than the DNC sending a shit message. If non voters and third party voted Kamala, we wouldn’t have a dictator in the White house right now. The DNC didn’t put him there, voters for Trump and non voters did.

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              Both sides onviously aren’t the same, one is more evil than the other. But they are both evil.

              Obama has the blood of tens of thousands of innocent civilians on his hands, shame on anyone helping him wash.