• chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    5 hours ago

    Almost like deciding whether things are true based on vibes and what your social circle approves of does not work

  • ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world
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    6 hours ago

    Conspiracy theorists were a psyop to make investigating actual conspiracies unpalatable to the left.

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    10 hours ago

    All these conspiracy theories turning out to be true are starting to make me wonder about the moon landing. Maybe the world really is flat?

    • TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zoneM
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      9 hours ago

      These “conspiracies” that are turning out to be true were not the ones conspiracy theorists really cared for. Those fuckers were following a secret agent larping grifter who posted on a CSAM website he ran with his dad. The theorists were pawns in the conspiracy, a conspiracy to turn pedophilia into a toothless tool, oppress minorities, and support those already in power.

      The rich and political elites are depraved freaks who treat people as disposable and do fucked up things because they can get away with it. This is capitalism working as intended. This sort of evil is what classism and legalized corruption always lead to. Unless the conspiracy actually challenges this fundamental power structure, it only helps them.

    • PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S [he/him]
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      9 hours ago

      Maybe the world really is flat?

      Nah. Easy way to see this is to derive (or look up) the expressions for the gravitational potential due to a sphere and due to a uniform plane. Then, fit the actual gravitational potential using known weights and simple gear to the same nonlinearities found in the two derivations. The spherical expression should be a much closer match. My undergraduate college physics course actually had a unit where we fit the gravitational potential, so it’s extremely technically easy to do. In particular, the plane expression does not change with height. If you’re very careful, you can probably measure the difference between performing the experiment at sea level versus at high elevation. This difference is predicted in the spherical expression.

      Also, if the Earth was flat, then straight lines would be the shortest trajectories (geodesic lines) along the Earth, and airliners would fly these trajectories, modulo war zones and other no-fly zones, to save money. In fact, airliners fly long haul flights in patterns that “look curved” on any flat map. These are the shortest paths on the sphere of the Earth. This is because topologically speaking, a flat plane surface has one global chart, whereas there is no global chart for the sphere, so any chart map will distort the true distances compared to the original sphere. (The neat thing about the theory of manifolds is that all these words have technical mathematical definitions that basically line up with their plain English usage.) This shows that, at least when it comes to flying airplanes, i.e. what ways you are allowed to traverse the sphere as a two-dimensional manifold, the Earth is topologically equivalent to a sphere.

      the moon landing

      Also nah.

      https://wtop.com/science/2019/07/the-experiment-still-running-on-the-moon-and-tv-re-runs-50-years-later/

      This one is harder to demonstrate without a bit of money.

      But also…if it never happened, why would the Soviet Union have let the AmeriKKKan government win the Space Race? There was enough historical and scientific evidence at the time for all world powers to conclude that it must have happened.