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- kentucky@lemmy.world
- cross-posted to:
- kentucky@lemmy.world
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A) how was this not illegal yet
B) $100 fine is an insult to anyone not in a car. That is fuck all in fines compared to the severity of consequences distracted driving can cause.
Ontario is $615, or $1000 if you try and fight it, but since 2020, police stopped enforcing.
Also 3 demerit points and 3 days licence suspension, huge hit on insurance.
Second conviction, $2000 and 6 points, 7 day suspension
Third conviction, $3000, 6 points and 30 day suspension, and insurnace will cancel and force you to a predatory insurer for 5 years.
All bullshit, no one gets charged.
It’s €350 in the Netherlands, but it is also enforced. There’s special camera’s on highwats to detect for phone use. If you use a phone while riding a bicycle, that’s €140. That one isn’t enforced as much (but I’ve seen plenty of teenager get one), but I think its good that the fine exists.
Ontario couldn’t even put speed cameras in school zones without drivers claiming “unfair fines”, “tax on driving”, “it’s not legitmate if it wasn’t a cop”, and “this is an attack on our freedom of mobility”.
Right, what a bunch of snowflakes. Don’t speed and it’s not a problem. Fucking conservatives.
“Tax on driving” sounds like a good idea, imho. Use the proceedings for public transport
“All bullshit, no one gets charged.” BINGO, got to use police & authorities to keep the poor in line.
If no one is getting charged, then how are they targeting the poor?
Simple, look it up, when they are issuing tickets, what percentage are Rich-Super Rich Economic Classes/Owners & Poor Economic Class/Employees?
I know they are sending out tickets to violators, if they were not media would all over it, especially outside The USA. When I still drove, many years ago, have had violated the traffic laws & had Red Light Camera catch me once & then had them issue me a traffic ticket, when it was not my vehicle, because the processing corporation suck so bad, not even on the same coast of The USA!
I agree the fine should a lot more expensive.
Its currently allowed?!
Since were on fuck cars. All these cars with big ass Screens bigger than your tablet even. That shouldn’t be allowed.
What? This was allowed till now anywhere? You guys are messed up
In what backwards shithole was this still legal?
Ooh…only 10+ years behind the curve. Kentucky playing down to expectations.
2000&late
It should also include all other devices that use The Internet. That is the improvement to these laws.
It is definitely not illegal, regulate dangerous behaviors, over huge parasitic profits. Done to drunk drivers that cannot stop, with the breathalyzers on steering wheels.
This long overdue, been due able forever, I been thinking this should happen for decades.
But will it be enforced?
This is bullshit, Telcos could easily disable texting and driving. They could tell who is driving looking at the 6 axis movement data.
the 30 people on the bus: “what?”
What if you’re a passenger? But also how could they enforce it if you’re just using data through a chat app? If they disable data, that means they also disable maps and navigation.
Why would the passengers need to not use cellphones?
Well exactly, but they’d have the same movement as the driver
“but they’d have the same movement as the driver” What?
In case you’re serious. The comment I was replying to suggested that telecom companies could disable texting by detecting who is driving using the phone’s movement data. But that movement data will be the same for the driver and the passengers, so they only show that you are in a vehicle, not necessarily driving. So using this would also block texting for passengers which doesn’t make any sense.
Yeah, I was serious, I just did think the other person was that questionable with his thinking, trying not to insult that person.
I ride the bus. How would it tell the difference between me, and a driver? Or a passenger of a car someone else is driving?
As the others have said, this is actually a complicated problem without easy solutions.
The only way I could see it working is if you were required to register the driver’s phone in the car, required to connect it (wirelessly or not) when driving, and then monitor it. Basically, combine the phone and the car key. There’d also need to be authentication to make sure the driver doesn’t register a burner phone to turn their car on or register a friend/partner’s phone. Then, of course, you’d have to refit all the cars already on the road to add this requirement, which is especially hard for pre-2010 cars.
And everyone would hate it. I’m all for pissing off motorists, but they’re kind of the societal majority.
It’s only an unsolvable problem if you haven’t ever been to any other place than the US. Like so, so many things. I don’t get why you guys keep thinking you have to reinvent the wheel, when the rest of the world has solved the same issues decades ago.
You know speed cameras? Modern ones can detect a phone in a hand. And they only store images of that when they detected law-breaking behavior, so they are fine in terms of privacy.
Decades ago? What are you talking about? As far as I can tell distracted driving detection software is an extremely recent technological development that’s been adopted in a few countries in the past few years. The UK was first I think, in 2021. France and Germany only upgraded in the last year. I don’t need to be mocked for missing out on the latest and greatest in traffic enforcement technology, and I don’t appreciate being talked down to like I’m fucking stupid or the butt of a fucking joke.
Smartphone detection cameras are relatively recent and I pointed them out because they are the best solution that exists so far.
But laws against using your phone while driving, we had them already decades ago, and we had other solutions before the cameras. E.g. placing police next to the highway and letting them pull everyone out who uses their phone. We had that too decades ago. And that too works.
But it’s not only that. There are posts all the time about Americans being surprised that speed cameras exist, that red light cameras cameras exist, that speed limits are things that can actually be enforced and so on.
Today there was even a post about some road being restructured with sidewalks, pedestrian crossings and shrubbery, and that was seen as something revolutionary by all the americans in the thread, and not something that the rest of the world has been doing since the 50s and that’s already way outdated compared to what’s happening now.
The US is a total backwater country where everything that benefits regular people happens 50 years later.
Are you under the impression that the US doesn’t have laws against using your phone while driving?
