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The PRC already has worker democracy, and is already socialist. OOP behaves like the people Fred Clark argued against in False Witnesses, no matter what evidence you show, their conclusions are already made up, and they try to “earn ideological credibility” by using whatever club is most convenient among their audience to bash their ideological enemies. The truth doesn’t matter as much as the effectiveness of the club, and OOP bans anyone that expresses dissent against their worldview. It’s why OP stopped posting so much to dbzer0’s Lefty Memes comm and moved to a comm they could control entirely.
When it comes to democracy in the PRC, we have Professor Roland Boer’s Socialism in Power: On the History and Theory of Socialist Governance to reference. Explaining Whole Process People’s Democracy takes time, sure, as westerners are used to bourgeois forms, but the PRC is fundamentally democratic.
Same with being socialist, modes of production and distribution are determined by their principle aspects, ie who governs the state and where the large firms and key industries are controlled, and in China that’s the working classes and the public sector. As time moves on, socialization is compelled, and the smaller firms grow to levels nationalization makes better sense at. This progress is dialectical and materialist.
But, no matter what you show OOP, they jump to banning and shit-flinging. They’ll try to get you to talk about Xinjiang, the Russo-Ukrainian war, etc to highlight the more “unpopular” positions Marxists have compared to liberals. Rather than engaging with the argument, like they did here. This is because, rather than trying to engage in a dialectical approach to learning for both parties, they deliberately choose to believe lies and half-truths for their rhetorical benefit, and engaging honestly would expose that more deeply, beyond simple cognitive dissonance.
Whenever a .world slop post about China is posted its always deceptichud. Do they have nothing better to do with their time than be wrong about things they don’t understand online?
I mean what’s better than getting paid to sit pretty on stolen land, be sinophobic, claim to be anarchist but don’t do any mutual aid or direct action, encourage americans to just start shooting indiscrimitely and make transphobic comments as a gay man? /s
Name a better combo than westerners and being wrong about stuff fr
they are an auSStralian with a deep hatred of asians so to them no, they literally made a new left memes comms because the one in dbzero didnt let them hate koreans
Worker democracy a few hundred years is coming right after of totalitarian state capitalism with Chinese characteristics.
