With the change in TikTok ownership, TikTok users in the U.S. are collectively freaking out over the company’s updated privacy policy after being alerted to the changes through an in-app message.

The revised document details the U.S. joint venture’s conditions for using its service, including the specific location information it may collect.

Many users are also posting to social media about language found in the policy, which says that TikTok could collect sensitive information about its users, including their “sexual life or sexual orientation, status as transgender or nonbinary, citizenship or immigration status.”

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    Here’s a hint:

    STOP USING THE APP

    Or just stop using the platform altogether. The reason that most of these things are “apps” is so that they can track you better, not for the “experience”.

    JFC.

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      Amen. Unfortunately I feel like there’s a whole generation that has come up with a different mindset. Not that you want to stand up for your rights, but that you will do whatever you want and complain about it if it violates your rights or your privacy, but not actually stop doing it.

      I feel like the idea of proactively standing up for your rights or what you believe in rather than just complaining or posting online is no longer in in common parlance.

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        Yeah, I wonder what percentage of various generations would be able to explain who EFF is or what they do. As a for instance.

        I’m glad to see that it’s fairly common to see people talking about/using things like a VPN, for instance, but…if you then “log in” to whatever brand for a “better experience”? Okay, you hid your traffic from your ISP but, not much else. All that data is flowing into that company(ies) servers, never to be deleted. If you trust that company as being “one of the good ones” right now, doesn’t mean it will stay that way. Look no further than something like Xitter - many people believed they were “good” (lol) before fElon’s takeover, most people sure don’t think so now. All that data you gave up is now his.

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    I called this shit 7 months ago. (Check my very first post.)

    Now, at that time, there was discussion of “public-private” cooperation concerning the cybersecurity of that data so it could (paraphrasing) “stay in the hands of American people.” Lolol.

    No doubt a similar agreement is in place and this shit is vectored directly to the US gov.

    (Sorry, I start getting long-winded here.)

    Fuck the technocracy. Bunch of cowardly assholes using and clearly planning to use Americans’ personal info against them en masse. The algorithms have manipulated us, pitting wage slave against wage slave. And all that extracted data will continue being utilized in siccing the brownshirts they rabbit-holed and radicalized onto conveniently corralled targets. Us.

    We have to fight their algorithm manipulation with not only data poisoning and/or removing ourselves from the tech altogether, but good ol’ fashioned interpersonal psychological manipulation. And what I mean by that is physically talking to humans outside our bubble. Find some common ground. Believe it or not, it still exists. Use seemingly innocuous quips to plant seeds of doubt. Try to reach the human that may or may not still exist in that withered husk you work with, that maga uncle with a maga son so in the closet it hurts, the ones just acting like it’s all okay. Help them see the writing on the wall that they, too, will lose.

    By completely disengaging with people we think are beyond redemption, we are possibly allowing so many with a shred of heart left to continue down the rabbit hole in private. People are stupid. And we know this division is by design. Fight it with well-placed words before they do something irredeemable and we have nothing left to fight with but arms.

    A vast number of maga figureheads and followers sure seem to be living in a world of shared psychosis. And when you’re in a psychosis, it genuinely feels like everyone’s out to get you for reasons you can only justify with increasingly difficult mental gymnastics. But it’s all manufactured by the very real psychopaths in power, the ones ensuring the cult psychosis keeps perpetuating.

    I guess what I’m saying is there’s still time to pull some of these followers or in-betweeners out of it by shifting the focus of what they think they have to fear by showing them what they really need to fear. A spin on killing them with kindness.

    Idk tho. I’m just mad all of this dystopian hatred shit didn’t just stay inside all the books I read growing up.

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      It’s a cult, it’s literally using cult trapping tactics, that’s why people are so delusional. Knowing that, might help in how you approach, should you choose to try.

      Look after yourself, too. It’s all a lot to take on, and they want everyone stuck in fight or flight, because it literally shuts down your critical thinking. The most empowering thing to do, right now, is beat their game against you, and find ways to bring yourself down out of fight or flight, after seeing the stuff going on, because your fight or flight can’t tell the difference between being there and watching a video. Complete the stress cycle after you see this stuff, hum, sing, dance or go for a walk, are some options.

      Find ways to decompress. Maybe it’s going to get hard, having good strategies to help yourself cope, and learning tools and techniques to undo the damage seeing this does, is going to make this an easier ride. We can beat them. They know that. They are scared of us. We will get through this.

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    We used to be anonymous on the internet. We had screen names, didn’t show our faces or tell people where we lived.

    This is what we get when sharing your face becomes the default.

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    Anyone who uses tiktok is kind of an idiot to be honest, and it’s kind of amusing that they’re shocked that this would happen. Wtf did you expect?

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      Yeah there was privacy concerns when it first launched. People didn’t care or thought it wouldn’t matter because China owned it not realizing that corporations comply with countries they are operating in just like Google does in China. Just showing how ignorant people chose to be despite headlines of how companies operate.

      When it comes to corporate spyware chasing after billions of dollars whether it is the west, east, or the upside down capitalist companies will sell you out to any country domestic or abroad.

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      It seems like each new wave that gets on the 'net seems to be dumber and dumber about a lot of things, TBH.

      I’m always quite amused when I see younger generations think that they “get” technology better than older generations just because they signed up for private platform brands like this and learn how they work as a user. It’s like a rat being released into a maze, thinking they “get” the maze.

      I’m generalizing of course. I’ve met some very actually tech savvy people across many different generations, including on down to Gen Alpha. Thankfully.

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        Seeing if they use adblock is a big tell of whether someone is even meets the bare minimum of being tech literate from what I’ve seen. If they use internet without protection their minds are already mush after being bombarded with ads and being trained to tolerate it and even want it.

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    Yeah, remember when Trump “saved” Tiktok? This is what he was doing. You fucking idiots celebrated when you should have been taking it as a sign to leave that app and never return.

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    So we the Fediverse made an alternative because it seemed Tik Tok would be gone now we are going to find ourselves pushing the same alternative because Tik Tok is a privacy nightmare (I mean it already was but this seems worse.)

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    Please remember this name; Larry Ellison. He’s the biggest bogeyman most people aren’t even aware is there.

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      The good news is that everything Larry Ellison touches dies slowly and painfully. Oracle’s touch of death is well known in the tech community… Java, MySQL, etc.

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        Eh, Java is probably bigger than ever, but there’s been lots of open source/alt forks and try as they might, I don’t think Oracle has monetized it all that well after they bought Sun.

        Same with MySQL - I don’t know that its use has slowed down all that much, even if most people are using MariaDB and calling it MySQL.

        So it’s more like once Ellison acquires something, people do their best to get his stench off of it if they can. Or at least fork it and not give him any money. But even if all they made was just their DB, they’d still be more or less printing money, given so many things running on Oracle and how much it can cost to use it at the enterprise level.

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        They have no idea how to run anything that requires community goodwill. It’s actually impressive how awful they are.

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          It was quite instructive to see how many people resigned right after Sun was acquired.

          Not to mention how quickly Hudson was forked to Jenkins.

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    A rule of journalism: Unless it’s meant literally, when a news headline includes words like blasts, blisters, bombshell, burns, claps back, drags, epic self-own, explodes, freaks out, goes viral, humbled, humiliated, melts down, mind-blowing, rages, rips, roasts, shocking, skewers, slams, staggering, stuns, or trolls, find a better source.

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    The app developed and operated by an authoritarian military psyops is collecting data and promoting authoritarianism?!

    No way!

    /s

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      This change happened after it was acquired by Ellison. He was not involved in its development

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        The change is who the information is going to, not that it was collected.

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          And people thought it being from China would mean their data would only be held by China when Google sharing data with China to be able to keep making money showed corporations don’t care and will sell out everyone to be able to keep raking in money.

          Lot of naive people not realizing corporations whether it is west, east, or the upside down are in the business of data collection and sharing with no care for protecting domestic or international users.

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    It’s really interesting to read another society’s propaganda, and clarifies how much we are affected by western propaganda we’ve been subjected to our whole lives.