Well well well. us-foreign-policy

    • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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      29 days ago

      So then why did they send soldiers there and claim it was for Russia and China? Everyone knows why they’re really there but the constant scapegoating isn’t a good look if you’re looking for potential help.

      • Awoo [she/her]@hexbear.net
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        The entire narrative that’s been built to support the ukraine war collapses if they show the public simultaneously being at war with russia and also wanting to be friends with russia for their support with greenland. It becomes extremely complicated to explain to the public and they don’t want to do that.

  • darkcalling [comrade/them, she/her]@hexbear.net
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    If Russia or anyone here believes this is anything but politicking in an area that’s going to go AFD and cause his coalition to falter in the next elections I present you the: fell-for-it-again-award

    They’ll consider Russia European if it submits to NATO, prostrates itself before them, gives up in Ukraine, admits it was bad and then pays money to help defend them against the US. That’s the kind of “deal” these “garden” EU liberals are going to offer Russia and they’ll be shocked if Russia doesn’t take it.

    • ComradeLeonie [she/her]@hexbear.net
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      I think that’s a wrong analysis. The AfD is not uniformly pro Russia. Its position on Russia is strongly split between the west and east sections. We have seen for over a year now, but especially within the last months, that the AfD is heavily struggling with that conflict, because that’s one of the main things keeping them from being ready for the Parlament. And we have seen those fights for power not only within the AfD, but also from the outside trying to influence the AfD. Thinking that Merz saying this is just Ment to grab some votes from the AfD, is quite a shallow analysis in my opinion.

      Now this doesn’t mean Germany is suddenly becoming pro Russia. Ofcourse not. But it’s really interesting to see, that after speaking for years now about russia as a rogue terror state where all people are crazy, Merz is saying this now. In my opinion this does at least show that the German capital is rethinking its approach to world power and wants to keep another option open, in case the current strategy of being by the US side doesn’t work anymore.

  • nasezero [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    29 days ago

    I hope Russia tells them to fuck off, I assume Europe would just use Russian oil to remilitarize and go back to threatening Russia again, anyways.

    • SevenSkalls [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      God, I wish, but Russia is always begging to be considered Europe and white, ever since Peter the Great (except maybe during Lenin’s time), and it’s not much better since they’ve become neoliberal. I think that was one of the causes of the fall of the USSR.

    • Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.ml
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      Russia will not ell them to fuck off. If the Europeans are willing to show sincerity, then Russia will accept cooperation with the Europeans and pull them away from the US. That’s how capitalist geopolitics play out, on the basis of benefits. Not only that, but who wants to fight a protracted struggle? At some point, unless Russia annexes Europe, both sides will need to make some concessions to one another.

      I assume Europe would just use Russian oil to remilitarize and go back to threatening Russia again, anyways

      That ship has sailed. Russian oil supplies have been greatly rerouted to China and India while the EU has made itself dependant on the US for oil supplies. If the EU makes itself dependant on Russian oil supplies, not only will it have to pay a steep price, it will become easier to control and will shift away from the US.