• E_coli42@lemmy.world
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    MAGA: Trump kindapping Maduro was justified because he was acting like a dictator and was a net negative to the people of Venezuela!

    MAGA after another world leader Kindaps Trump for doing the same thing: 😮

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    Man. All them politicians in DC must be writing some mildly worded letters. Cause they sure as fuck aren’t doing anything else.

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    It makes me feel really sad to see the USA go from 80s / 90s Era golden times into false wars, the murder of millions and now we just putting the building blocks in place to have a new form of the Nazi party.

    The problem is that everyone is so Tribal now and fixed into their positions I can only see it escalating. I’m worried for my children.

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      In the 80s and 90s, America was massively involved in destabilising Central America and the Middle East.

      Iran-Contra / Nicaragua, Panama, first Gulf war, Afghanistan…

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      That supposed golden age was a time of massive deregulation, which is still wreaking havoc on the country.

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    Text of the Foreign Emoluments Clause, U.S. Const. art. I, § 9, cl. 8.

    “No Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under [the United States], shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.”

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      Thankfully his presidency over Venezuela is entirely self declared, so this is clearly not illegal then /s

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        You say /s but it is absolutely a not /s. If this goes to the SCOUS that’ll absolutely be their decision.

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      We should bring him and every elected official that takes money from Israel up on charges

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    To this kind of news, pessimists would say “it can’t get any worse than this.” Optimists would say “it can, it can.” TIL, “I can” is the new MAGA.

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    When this era of terror is over, I hope we have Nuremberg style trials for all these wastes of humans. From the white house to the lawmakers who sat idly by and let this country falter, to the ice agents “just following orders”. And I hope we dismantle everything trump. No courts. No mercy. Globally. Cancel every contract they have given themselves and their friends. Corrupt judges out. End this Christian fascism. Every Trump aligned son of a bitch and bitch delta with

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      You are dreaming. USA did this TWICE. There is no turning back from this. The People of the USA seems to forget a lot in 4 years. So who will the next trump be, once the egg prices goes up again? USA will never be trusted again. They are in catagory with Russia and china.

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        The USA will be treated as even less trustworthy than Russia and China. Russia and China are of course untrustworthy but at least they are consistently untrustworthy. Everyone knows to give them a wide birth.

        But the USA, they insinuated themselves into high-level defence pacts and international military cooperation. Then they decided to turn fascist and destroy everything for no readily apparent reason.

        If there is going to be any repairing of fences, it’s going to have to start off with the US paying for all the damage they have done to the world order and all of the renegotiating of contracts that has had to be done because they didn’t feel like fulfilling their international obligations. And also justice, if the Trump admin don’t end up in prison then the rest of the world is going to see that for what it is. An attempt to defend the indefensible, and therefore an indication that they have not truly changed.

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      There had to be a World War for Nuremberg to happen. What my fear is instead of World War there will be a World Civil war.

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        You can’t have a World Civil War?

        A civil war is between factions inside of the same country

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        What is a “world civil war” and how is that different from a world war?

        My understanding is that a “civil war” is a war within a country, for the dominance and rulership of that country, usually over ideals or laws or something. And a world war is just… a worldwide war. I wish my grandparents were still around to seek real advice on this, I truly miss them and their experience and wisdom.

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          They will be factions within countries fighting amongst each other. There maybe alliances amongst those factions but no nations against each other. The end an apocalyptic fragments of Nations

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            You could say that some of the national borders as they exist right now are needlessly artificial.

            Take Spain and Catalonia for example. The only reason that Catalonia is not an independent country is because Spain won’t let them be. There’s no real reason other than Spanish national pride and if there was a war between the two you could classify it as a civil war or you could classify it as a war between two countries, it’s entirely a matter of opinion.

            But I don’t think that US politics has any real bearing on whether or not that happens. Political instability in the United States doesn’t really lead to any obvious change in internal politics for other countries. External policies obviously would change but not internal ones.

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              Right wing nationalism is spilling into Europe, Aisa along with bad actors like Israel, China, Russia it will lead to factions and if we are truly unlucky civil war.

              There is unrest in France, Germany, many of the Baltic nations, UK.

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        I just thought about ww2, and I just realized how egregious it is that the Japanese and Italians sided with Nazis.

        They thought “yes, mhm, we are on that side”.

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          Italy was more of a trapped situation

          Japan pre-nukes however were extremely genocidal fascist, look up some of the stuff they did just before WWII, such as the “Rape of Nanjing”, if anything the Nazis took some inspiration from them

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          Don’t sell Italy and Japan short.

          Mussolini invented fascism, and did population-scale deployment of chemical weapons in Ethopia… Imperial Japan are absolutely an all-time G.O.A.T of horrific war crimes.

          Their behavior was egregious, and that’s why they sided with the nazis.

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          A slight nitpick but Japan didn’t side with the Nazis. They had their own thing going on with China and simply saw the Nazis as an opportunity for some payback. It wasn’t like they really bought into the Nazi ideology as didn’t really apply to them. The Italians were all in on it though.

          Had the war turned out differently there would have been a radical cultural difference between Nazi controlled Europe and Japanese controlled Asia. In the long run it would have probably led to another war because of the extreme cultural differences.

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            While they didn’t 100% buy into all the details of Nazi ideology, the Japenese did believe themselves to be the superior race among the Asian peoples.

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            In the long run it would have probably led to another war because of the extreme cultural differences.

            Like a cold war.

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    America was always a nazi shithole, we just didn’t care because they made our elite rich and it was only brown people who were getting fucked over it.

    Welcome to reality my frieds, a portion of us have been here for a long time. Kissinger should have been the only canary needed to see it, yet, here we are…

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      Yep, this is pretty true to form for U.S. intervention in Latin America. It just used to be done covertly by the CIA instead of plastered all over Twitter.

      And an obligatory fuck Henry Kissinger.

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      America was always a Nazi shithole, but nobody noticed until they got online, and their cultural blindspot (education), made them afraid of anything new or different - including critical thinking, which the Russians exploited.

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    If he’s the president of Venezuela then let’s open up the border to them. Let them come in they’re American now.

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      This is actually a good argument .

      The president of the USA can not be head of state of a different country. So they are either Americans or Donald trump accidentally abdicated the presidency.

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        Is there anything explicitly forbidding it? I can’t say I recall anything specific about it, but I admit I could be just forgetting a constitutional clause or something.

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            LOL the emoluments clause means nothing to Trump et al. He’s so bribed. It’s beyond fathom.

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          No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.

          He cannot “accept … [an] Office … from any … foreign State.” I suppose he might argue that “accepting” and “seizing by force” are not the same thing.

          Or Congress could pass an act to allow it.

          Edit: Or, more realistically, someone will complain to the Supreme Court and they’ll find a reason to avoid ruling on the issue and Sotomayor will write an angry dissent but nothing will change.

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            Argue? Why would he argue? He says it, it happens, nobody has a choice but to accept it, the legal system is defunct. We are living in upside down clown world now. The clown has his own Gestapo and nukes. Fucker needs to be taken out like week old fish in the bin.