• Metostopholes@midwest.social
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    99
    ·
    8 days ago

    To illustrate how fucking insane this is:

    Measles has a death rate of 1-2 per 1000 cases. With US population at 340,000,000, that means 340,000 - 680,000 dead. And that’s out of the 85 million people hospitalized, which would be a society destroying situation.

    • formergijoe@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      60
      ·
      8 days ago

      Not only that but measles can cause immune amnesia! Which is when “the immune system forgets how to fight off infections it successfully dealt with before—and [research] showed that this effect lasts for years!”

      • Ledericas@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        7
        ·
        7 days ago

        not only forgets, but the measles infects the dendritic cells which presents antigens to T-cells(i thought it was b-cells) which fights the viruses, so its actually immunosuppression.

    • Tar_Alcaran@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      31
      ·
      edit-2
      8 days ago

      Measles has a death rate of 1-2 per 1000 cases

      Oh, its much worse. That’s the death rate for people who get treated, in a vaccinated population in a modern hospital. In low-income countries (or in, say, places with 85 million hospitalizations) over 20 out of a thousand people die. And in displaced refugee children, it can rocket up to 3 out of every 10 infected children dying.

    • takeda@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      16
      ·
      8 days ago

      And that’s just death, measles also creates life long conditions, some that appear years or decades after. For example the way he speaks, his disease is linked to childhood measles ironically.

      Also another bad thing about makes is that it can reset your immune system, so now other diseases that you didn’t have to be afraid before now can be deadly.

        • FreeRangeMustard@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          7 days ago

          lmao, imagining RFK scooping up some roadkill, preparing it and having a bbq all in pleasure at the top and causal Friday at the bottom with his cute blue jeans, is hilarious and idiotic at the same time.

    • FreeRangeMustard@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      7 days ago

      They do try to destroy the country in every possible way. At this point they just want to make sure it’s really dead.

  • superkret@feddit.org
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    86
    ·
    edit-2
    8 days ago

    “It used to be, when I were a kid, that everybody got measles. And the measles gave you lifetime protection against measles infection,” he said, then taking a swipe at the vaccine. “The vaccine doesn’t do that. The vaccine is effective for some people for life, but for many people it wanes.”

    “Some”=97%, “Many”=3%
    And you know what the vaccine also doesn’t do? Kill you!

    • atzanteol@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      48
      ·
      8 days ago

      I love how they say shit like “it wanes” as though that’s a reason to not get it. Like, just get a fucking booster and you’re good.

      • half_fiction@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        11
        ·
        edit-2
        8 days ago

        For real, I thought he was going to name something of actual consequence even if it wasn’t true like, “it makes your head explode.” But, “it wanes”??? Uh ok, it wanes so some people might get measles anyway. Isn’t that just problem solved then since you think infection is good? Completely nonsensical.

    • shalafi@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      8
      ·
      edit-2
      7 days ago

      MTG pulled this stupid shit promoting “measles parties”. For the younger folks, let me explain.

      Parents used to deliberately infect their kids with chicken pox. No big deal for litte 'uns, big deal when you’re older. (Got it at 16, still have the scars 40-years later. And yes, I’m up on my shingles vaccine.)

      These people are so dumb they’re conflating chicken pox and measles. Fuck me, I’m just now learning about measles because that shit was gone when I was a child. It was like polio or smallpox, unheard of.

  • Libra00@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    24
    ·
    8 days ago

    No, what would be better is if that guy got a bad case of my backhand across his mouth every time he opens it.

  • ArtVandelay@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    24
    ·
    8 days ago

    Okay brainworm, go intentionally get the measles and let us watch you for the next 6 months so we see how safe it is.

    • protist@mander.xyz
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      13
      ·
      7 days ago

      Unfortunately, he’s almost certainly vaccinated against measles, because his parents were sane people

    • Ledericas@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      7
      ·
      7 days ago

      he made sure the children of SAMOA got measles, and about 86+ died from it, when he convinced the govt to stop vaccinations.

  • AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    23
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    8 days ago

    Guys, if you live in Magastan, talk to your doctors, ask them to give you any shot they can of anything that needs a booster over time (or that you miss) and do it ASAP. If a new pandemic from a new virus comes, you’ll be fucked, but at least you won’t be if what you suffer is an epidemic of a fucking preventable disease.

  • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    19
    ·
    7 days ago

    I really hate that this motherfucker gets government-funded health care now, because every nasty-ass virus he gets is not only going to be well-treated, but actively buried.

    • rigatti@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      12
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      7 days ago

      I’m sure he had bonkers good healthcare before anyway. His name is Robert Fucking Kennedy Jr…

    • TXL@sopuli.xyz
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      7 days ago

      Well, less humans would be good for humankind as well as the rest of the planet. But I think this is one of those “not like that” situations.

  • ilinamorato@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    17
    ·
    8 days ago

    Cool. I can’t wait for my immunocompromised friend to die of a preventable disease that we had eradicated in the US until this year.