I feel a therapist should very easily understand such a simple distinction.
He understands, he’s just working out if you’re lying about not wanting to.
Yea, I feel a lot of people think therapists are doing a bad job when they “don’t believe you” when all they’re doing is trying to figure out if you’re one of the lying “I’m definitely suicidal :D shoots self next day” types.
In the beginning the universe was made. This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move.
I’m not afraid of dying by my own hands, I’m afraid I will survive it…
People survive all kinds of brain trauma, so that at least is just a bad idea.
I want to have never experienced existence so I won’t know what I am missing when I no longer exist.
I also don’t want to experience the pain of dying. I just want to not be alive.
Even that’s not entirely true. I want to live. I want to exist. Just not here, on Earth.
Totally unrelated, but how do you get a username like that.
The “display name” field accepts emojis and other funky stuff that the username itself doesn’t.
ok thnx
“I don’t wanna die. I sometimes wish I’d never been born at all.”
Can relate totally. I always give an example of hopefully getting a cancer and dying but not commiting suicide.
I don’t wanna die I just want to be dead. What’s so hard to understand?!
For real, even the work of opting out seems exhausting. Can I just stop being already.
How did you get this picture of me?
Seriously though. If I die, I don’t have any strong feelings about that. I do however, have strong feelings about how I die. I don’t want to go out from some drug overdose, starvation, by getting crushed by gravity (fall damage), or in some violent crime.
But if I can just blink out of existence… That’s okay with me. Get hit by a train and turned into mist, okay. Seems oddly specific but I can go with it… Snapped out of existence by Thanos. Awesome, seems like it should be painless.
Stabbed 47 times, in the street for the Nickles in my pocket? No thanks. That sounds horrible. Starving? Choking on my own vomit from a drug overdose? Getting shot and bleeding out on the sidewalk? Falling to my death? No thanks. All of those seem like really unpleasant and painful ways to die.
I don’t actively seek death, but if it comes for me, I am a willing participant.
Disagree on the train part. Getting hit by a train is just getting crushed by gravity but sideways
I think it depends on the speed of the train. If it’s not going very fast, yeah, probably.
But stand in front of a bullet train and you’ll be a mist before you can register any pain.
Be me passing a graveyard.
Wants
by Phllip LarkinBeyond all this, the wish to be alone:
However the sky grows dark with invitation-cards
However we follow the printed directions of sex
However the family is photographed under the flag-staff -
Beyond all this, the wish to be alone.Beneath it all, the desire for oblivion runs:
Despite the artful tensions of the calendar,
The life insurance, the tabled fertility rites,
The costly aversion of the eyes away from death -
Beneath it all, the desire for oblivion runs.I’ve suffered from chronic ideation pretty much my whole life and I’m reasonably confident that I don’t want to and wouldn’t actually attempt to kill myself. I’ve tried to make that clear to my therapist and for the most part I think he understands but whenever it comes up it’s hard not to get annoyed at the time I feel like we’re wasting talking about it.
That said, looking at it from his perspective, I can see why he’d want to get ahead of it and take it seriously. It might even be a matter of career security as I wouldn’t be surprised if clients committing suicide can interfere with them getting their licenses renewed or something.
I have nothing but sympathy for your plight. I hope you feel better and the ideations are, at the very least, subdued. (Hopefully entirely eliminated at some point).
Only once was I in such a bad place to have ideations. I got out of that place and it’s incredibly brave to experience that and continue on in spite of it. It’s something that most people don’t understand until they live through it at least once. I don’t assume what worked for me would work for you. I am not a doctor or medical professional. I hope your medical support team has helped you and I hope they continue to help you.
All that being said, I’m the kind of person who doesn’t have any strong feelings about ceasing to exist. I don’t want to die; dying sounds like a horrible, painful, and unpleasant experience. I don’t seek death at all, and thankfully, at least for now, I do not have any ideations. However, if I were to suddenly stop existing as a living person, I am not opposed to it as a concept.
For me, and people like me, it’s more apathy and indifference to living, than it is a wanton desire to not be alive. The two are very very different.
None of this should diminish the fact that some struggle with a desire to continue to live at all. For those who fight those thoughts: please, get help if you have not already done so. There are people who care about you and want good things for you. If you can’t bring yourself to do it for yourself, then do it for them. You are valuable. You are worthy.
All the best, from an Internet stranger.
Passive morbid ideation vs suicidal ideation.
Yep. I don’t want to kill myself. But sometimes I fantasise about a heart attack or something finishing me off.
Me, but telling them why I don’t want to commit suicide.
Oh hey it’s me.
Tangentially, that guy’s eyes are creeping me the fuck out.
