• BoisZoi
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    1444 months ago

    !piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

    /r/Piracy is just a bunch of memes, and this community actively talks about piracy, it’s ethical philosophy and taking control over your media. There are people who pirate everything regardless of circumstances, but for the most part, I’d argue its people who have been burnt by companies whom they trusted.

    • @simple@lemm.ee
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      334 months ago

      /r/piracy is just a bunch of memes

      Because otherwise it would get instantly banned. You don’t host piracy communities on social media, it’s well known

    • @tias@discuss.tchncs.de
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      I disagree that it actually talks about the “ethical philosophy.” Basically either you join the echo chamber saying that there are no ethical problems with piracy, or you’re downvoted to oblivion. The responses are along the lines of “idc, I want free stuff.” That makes the discussion redundant and uninteresting.

      • SUPAVILLAIN
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        24 months ago

        Piracy is good actually; the only people who disagree are squares who will never own capital of their own, and actual capitalist leeches

      • @umbrella@lemmy.ml
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        04 months ago

        because the flipside is companies wanting to nickel and dime you to oblivion for a subpar piece of media, or even hardware these days.

        • @tias@discuss.tchncs.de
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          We’re talking about whether the community has a nuanced discussion about the ethics of piracy or not. What you said just now is another attempt at a false dichotomy, so if you’re trying to represent the community you’re kind of proving my point.

          • @umbrella@lemmy.ml
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            im presenting you with a simple, common but strong argument for it.

            you can choose to engage with it with nuance or, apparently, attack me.

            you won’t agree with every set of ideals out there, that doesn’t mean it isnt tought out.

            • @tias@discuss.tchncs.de
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              44 months ago

              Your argument is not relevant to anything I said. So I don’t want to engage with it because it derails the discussion here, which is not about the ethics of piracy but about the community’s openness to discussing it.

              • @umbrella@lemmy.ml
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                yes it is. you just dont want to have that discussion.

                the community will rightfully shun people parroting the copyrights holders arguments and bad faith arguing, because thats not the place to be if you hate piracy.

                • @tias@discuss.tchncs.de
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                  44 months ago

                  They can do whatever they want, it’s their community. Just don’t tell me there’s a nuanced discussion going on there.

      • @Mastengwe@lemm.ee
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        Yep. I got wrecked trying to discuss the nuanced differences between piracy and theft.

        Decided then and there to just block all discussions/communities on the topic. If they can’t leave the wind-tunnel, they can keep it to themselves.

        • Big P
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          04 months ago

          Some people have to jump through a lot of moral hoops to justify piracy instead of accepting there could be any possible bad points about it

    • @billgamesh@lemmy.ml
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      Idk if it’s still there, but devs of lemmy mentioned wanting to make a place you could actually talk about piracy. I buy things when I can DRM free, and when I can’t I’m really glad this community exists

    • @umbrella@lemmy.ml
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      14 months ago

      There are people who pirate everything regardless of circumstances, but for the most part, I’d argue its people who have been burnt by companies whom they trusted.

      hey thats me! 🤗

  • @imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works
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    444 months ago

    Gotta be !imageai@sh.itjust.works. The weekly community challenges are really cool and I don’t think you could find a better space to experiment with and learn about AI artwork. The userbase is knowledgeable/skilled on the topic and also has good vibes.

    • my_hat_stinks
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      244 months ago

      Personally I don’t see that as a good thing. Reddit had a thriving community of active art sharing subrrddits, Lemmy only has a few barely active art coms and instead floods All with ai-generated images.

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        A) just block the community

        B) Lemmy also has active !traditional_art@lemmy.world communities, it just has less activity in general. We can have an infinite amount of communities on this platform, for both topics. It’s not a zero-sum game

        Why do you think the existence of the AI image community is hurting the other art communities on Lemmy? I’m subscribed to and enjoy content from both.

        • @MotoAsh@lemmy.world
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          It’s not a zero sum game, but there are not an infinite number of eyeballs looking nor is there an infinite supply of content at any given time. If the majority of “art” floating to the top is generated, it will change how people view the platform.

          Maybe the AI “art” community being the first to thrive will mean actual artists get a bad first impression and avoid Lemmy. Maybe people do block it and it becomes a problem only visible to those who don’t already “get it” and just block.

          There are many reasons why it could hurt the community. How do you fail to understand that?

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            I never said there aren’t any reasons it could hurt the community. I simply asked what those reasons might be, and you have given me an answer to my question.

            My counterpoint would be that it’s also possible that the increased activity from the AI art community energizes and grows Lemmy as a whole, and some of those users are also interested in other art.

            I think that your beef is with AI art as a concept, not with the Lemmy community in particular. I feel terrible for artists that are losing their livelihood due to AI, but if AI is going to affect my life going forward, I would like to understand how it works and how to deal with it. Observing that Lemmy community has helped to clarify the capabilities and limitations of AI for me personally, along with providing entertainment.

            TLDR verifiable pros > hypothetical cons

      • @Rebels_Droppin@lemmy.world
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        I feel that. There’s is a lot of ai art here and it’s a little off putting. Reddit did have a lot more to share but it comes with the user numbers for sure.

        Shameless plug, but I’ve been really trying to keep up with daily posts at https://lemmy.world/c/crtart if you are looking for a non ai art community.

  • @j4k3@lemmy.world
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    264 months ago

    (abstract) The overall dev community here. This place has a lot of the extremely capable bleeding edgers, the people capable of changing the world for the better with a couple weeks of thought.

    • Lad
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      44 months ago

      Was it locked permanently due to the Reddit API changes perhaps? Or was it before that?

      I know some subs did lock indefinitely, but Reddit forcibly reopened some I think.

      • ℕ𝕖𝕞𝕠
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        44 months ago

        It was a couple months before that, actually. I wouldn’t talk shit about a community that shut down in protest.

    • @Artyom@lemm.ee
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      44 months ago

      I’m gonna need someone to explain what that is a little more. I’m super confused.

      • ℕ𝕖𝕞𝕠
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        74 months ago

        It’s a type of joke where the spoken line relates to the described manner of speaking, usually in a pun, eg.

        “Salmon is just the best,” Tom said superficially.

        The adverb “superficially” sounds like “super fish”, which describes Tom’s attitude towards salmon.

  • @KISSmyOS@feddit.de
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    94 months ago

    !ich_iel@feddit.de
    Technically, it has an equivalent in r/ich_iel. But that’s a generic German meme sub, while the fediverse version is dominated by half a dozen users making memes about their private life. It has a weird-as-fuck soap opera love story between a cow and ramen noodles, hero worship of a bright yellow superhero fighting against parking offenders, and genuinely interesting insights into the German public train system.

  • @CanadaPlus
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    Lemmit.

    Yeah, you can downvote if you want. The point being that Lemmy’s niche communities are kind of dead, because it’s not really big enough to sustain them yet. Lemmit at least provides a bridge so I can see the ones stranded on Reddit.

      • @Baku@aussie.zone
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        74 months ago

        It’s an instance that automatically reposts every post made in certain Reddit subs.

        I don’t like it, and blocked the entire instance because I don’t like the whole automatic repost thing, especially when the OP probably won’t even see any responses

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          It doesn’t post outside of itself, as far as I’m aware, so that was probably redundant.

      • @CanadaPlus
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        A special instance that mirrors Reddit subs. Just the posts, unfortunately, because I guess all the comments would be harder to scrape.

    • For the uninitiated… these are the idiots that spam lemmy with posts from reddit.

      They claim to be “helping”, but any idiot can see that it just stifles engagement and community growth here on lemmy.

      We don’t need bots posting spam, we need people building communities. The former is not helping the latter.

      • @CanadaPlus
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        You could just not subscribe. AFAIK it’s all internal to the instance.

          • @CanadaPlus
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            Yep, those are all on Lemmit communities - foo@lemmit.online.

            If you often look at all communities your instance happens to federate with sorted by new, you will get tons from whatever happens to be active, and Reddit is very active. I suggest looking at just what you subscribe to, instead, or sorting by something like scaled.

            • That’s not a solution though.

              We can all curate our own feeds - that’s not the problem.

              The problem is that these bots are discouraging the growth of communities here on Lemmy.

              • @CanadaPlus
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                Well that’s another issue, yes. I don’t really have hard data, but anecdotally it doesn’t seem like an issue. I, at least, use Lemmy for whatever Lemmy can do. I’m on here because I like to comment and participate, and Lemmit will always be inferior at that.

                • Yes but as someone who likes to comment and participate, you can probably surmise that your enjoyment might be increased if there is more people commenting and participating.

                  For new users who have no idea what Lemmy is and how it might differ from Reddit, I think it’s a fairly safe assumption that posts from lemmit are literally referring those users back to reddit.

                  The lack of hard data is not a good reason not to defederate from lemmit. When weighing most decisions in life we do not have hard data. We do not have hard data supporting the use of bots from lemmit.

    • SUPAVILLAIN
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      Crikey, liberal settlers have been through here. Lookit that responseless score-cratering…

    • @umbrella@lemmy.ml
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      i came here to say this but it looks like an unpopular opinion.

      the tankie instances are a breath of fresh air among all the usians thinking that THIS TIME their democrat politician will change everything, i swear.

    • @Baku@aussie.zone
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      They said community (the formal term for our equivalent of subreddits), not 3 mostly troll filled instances