• @RudeOnTuesdays@lemmy.world
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    8010 months ago

    People in this thread are acting like microwaving coffee turns it into vinegar.

    Coffee tastes absolutely fine reheated in the microwave.

    • @nyctre@lemmy.world
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      1510 months ago

      Yup, can confirm. Sometimes I forget to finish my coffee too. James Hoffman on youtube did some testing and he agrees that microwave is perfectly fine and might even be the best method to reheat coffee

      • @TheControlled@lemmy.world
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        1110 months ago

        Is it the nocebo effect and filthy microwave interior leeching pizza roll flavor into my coffee? No, it’s the micro-wavelengths vibrating water molecules who are to blame!

    • @fatalError
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      810 months ago

      Reheating coffee doesn’t make it bad, be it in the microwave, on the stove or hot plate. Not finishing your coffee and letting it get cold just to reheat it later definitely makes it worse.

      This is not something subjective, oxidation is very real. If you don’t believe me, peel an apple and let it sit for the same amount of time as you let your coffee sit and then you will see the effects.

      When you brew coffee you extract all these oils and goodies from the beans thst have been protected by the antioxidants and expose them to air. While they will not turn to vinegar, they do oxidize and therefore degrade quite rapidly.

  • vrojak
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    6110 months ago

    Déjà Brew
    I didn’t drink from this cup before
    Leaving it to cool
    And I know it keeps happening
    Calling you, caffeine is a mystery
    Falling back asleep
    It’s so hard when I try to wake up
    Whooaaahh

    • Kevin
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      810 months ago

      DO YOU LIKE -IKE -IKE

      MY CAHP -AHP -AHP

    • Thomrade
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      710 months ago

      I imagine this is what plays when you put the cup slightly off center on the microwave turntable so it starts drifting in wide circles when you turn it on.

      • vrojak
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        710 months ago

        The em waves in a microwave are standing waves, meaning energy is deposited in the food only on some spots, and the spots remain static as the microwave is running. Therefore, positioning food to the outside of the tray will make it move through these spots more vs if it was only rotating at the center.

        Tldr drift your food for maximum heat distribution.

        • @AA5B@lemmy.world
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          510 months ago

          Seems plausible: the wavelength is in a good size range for such an effect to be noticeable.

          I found that in a typical microwave oven, the frequency is about 2450 MHz. Using the formula, velocity = frequency × wavelength and knowing that the velocity of an electromagnetic wave is about 3.0 × 108 m/s, gives a wavelength of about 12 cm.

  • @Skullgrid@lemmy.world
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    3910 months ago

    Usa

    Good at :

    Dominating countries through cut throat capitalism

    Horrendous at:

    Brewed beverages

    providing universal healthcare

    • @JasonDJ@lemmy.zip
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      310 months ago

      Ok, we suck at coffee. I get it.

      But we brew good beer! Lots of it! There’s an independent brewery on every corner! Soon they’ll outnumber the Starbucks’s!

      Some of them are even starting to do spiked seltzer and booch! That’s a whole new level of brewing…that’s brewing life itself!

      • @Skullgrid@lemmy.world
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        110 months ago

        First of all, brew as in use hot water to extract flavour from something.

        Secondly, APAs and the like are not beer, they’re hops based lemonade.

        Thirdly, every country has some independent thing doing some artisan craft; but as a group, you guys suck at this.

        • @JasonDJ@lemmy.zip
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          010 months ago

          Every brewery I’ve ever been to has had a variety of styles and often their flagship brew isn’t even an xPA.

          Also the typical brewing range for beer is between 40-70 degrees Freedom. There’s a lot of heat in that as far as atoms are concerned.

          • @Skullgrid@lemmy.world
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            110 months ago

            Every brewery I’ve ever been to has had a variety of styles and often their flagship brew isn’t even an xPA.

            and yet you flood every market and memesphere with shitty IPAs/APAs. It’s a joke friend, just take your fucking lumps and don’t um actually the place. I’m sure you have 3 good beers in a brewery that sells 30 types of beer, meanwhile other countries have less brewereies making fewer variants of beer, but most of them are good and different kinds of bere.

            • @JasonDJ@lemmy.zip
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              110 months ago

              That’s probably because most European countries have deep cultural and culinary roots in their modern beers.

              America being a relative newcomer country of immigrants, we as a country have very few cultural or culinary roots of our own. So we borrow, and innovate, and ultimately have to appeal to a very large variety of individuals who have their own preferences, inspired by their own cultures.

              • @Skullgrid@lemmy.world
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                wow, that’s a great point, how old is your country? 250 years? And you say it’s made mostly of people who claim to have heritage from british isles and germany, places famous for brewing beer?

                Wow, it’s incredible that none of those people that stole the land from the natives didn’t know how to properly brew beer, and in 250 years you didn’t manage to develop a respectable beer culture.

                But you know, cut throat capitalism and being the world leader of motion picture and music propaganda, you got in one. Bravo.

                EDIT : also, LEARN TO BREW TEA AND COFFEE WITHOUT A MICROWAVE YOU SAVAGES.

                • @JasonDJ@lemmy.zip
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                  Who the hell is brewing coffee in the microwave? Maybe boiling water for instant…but even people who drink instant know that that’s not coffee.

                  I use an electric kettle like most of the civilized world. And I cold brew my coffee.

                  But even aside from that…the varieties that you see around Europe are closely correlated to the types of grains and hops and in some cases wild yeast that was available to them. We brought most of that over with us and grew it here. Native crops just don’t offer much. Nobodies drinking corn wine.

                  Also, distilled spirits are the far more interesting fight. We do that pretty damn good, and a lot of that spawned out of a few short years of prohibition. Or talk to us about cider and peach wine.

    • @xx3rawr@sh.itjust.works
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      10 months ago

      A drink needs reheating so they use a convenient household equipment to reheat it. How controversial. How sacrilegious.

        • @Squeak@lemmy.world
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          710 months ago

          Who said it was instant coffee? And there might also be milk. Why waste perfectly good coffee?

        • @fatalError
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          110 months ago

          Mmmm, all that fresh freeze dried coffee… So fresh… Instant coffee is an abomination. So many crimes comitted in the name of lazyness convenience.

      • @colmear@discuss.tchncs.de
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        -310 months ago

        I am not sure about coffee, but heating water in a microwave may result in superheated water, which is above the boiling point without boiling. This can be quite dangerous, as it might start boiling at any time. In chemistry you usually put a boiling chip in the water when heating it in a test glass to avoid this.

          • @Rodeo@lemmy.ca
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            -110 months ago

            I’m pretty sure it also has to be contained in a pressure chamber too. If it’s not, the steam just disperses into the atmosphere along with the excess heat.

        • @Voyajer@lemmy.world
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          1510 months ago

          It shouldn’t happen with coffee, superheated water requires there to be nowhere for the bubbles to form but even tap water normally has enough minerals dissolved in it for that to not be a problem.

        • @xx3rawr@sh.itjust.works
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          410 months ago

          Would be really rare with coffee since there would be a whole lot of nucleation sites, that is the dissolved coffee itself plus bubbles.

          Even when I’m heating water in the microwave, it’s just habit that I tap the mug or peck with a teaspoon before having it near my face.

      • @Kusimulkku@lemm.ee
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        1710 months ago

        It definitely tastes worse but I think it’s still fine. Also it’s partly a punishment from having forgotten to drink it in the first place 😔

      • @danc4498@lemmy.world
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        610 months ago

        Ice coffee is not the same vibe as hot coffee at all. I can drink hot coffee black, for instance, but I need sugar in ice coffee.

        • @Asafum@feddit.nl
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          510 months ago

          Try maple syrup in the iced coffee, total game changer! It’s pretty much the only way I drink it now.

          • @Rodeo@lemmy.ca
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            410 months ago

            I don’t know if this was supposed to be a rebuttal or if you’re just sharing what you like in your coffee, but maple syrup is literally sugar.

            • @Asafum@feddit.nl
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              210 months ago

              Not a rebuttal, just saying if someone needs sugar in their iced coffee that maple syrup is a really good option

              • @Rodeo@lemmy.ca
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                210 months ago

                Gotcha, personally I don’t like it as I find it takes on a burnt flavor. I love maple syrup on lots of other things though.

          • @danc4498@lemmy.world
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            210 months ago

            Still not the same vibe as hot coffee, but I’ve never thought of maple syrup in coffee. Sounds tasty!

      • @aulin@lemmy.world
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        410 months ago

        You wouldn’t. You’d make new coffee. Not trying to be condescending. I literally wouldn’t reheat coffee because if it’s been standing long enough to get cold, it no longer tastes good.

        • @Kusimulkku@lemm.ee
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          10 months ago

          I don’t think what you said was condescending, it just sounds wasteful to me tbh. I’m not throwing it away just because it got cold and it doesn’t taste fresh anymore.

          • @Rodeo@lemmy.ca
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            110 months ago

            People do shit like that but then they bought the brown coffee filters instead of the white ones so they’re still saving the environment 🙄

            • @Kusimulkku@lemm.ee
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              110 months ago

              It’s about creating less waste for me and not really about saving the environment. I just don’t like to be wasteful.

          • @aulin@lemmy.world
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            Ah, so it’s a sort of punishment for yourself for not drinking it while it was hot? You made it, so now by god you’ll drink it? Maybe invest in an insulated cup or thermos then. 😂

            • @Kusimulkku@lemm.ee
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              110 months ago

              Not really, it would just feel like unnecessary waste. Though I did make a comment about punishment as a joke.

          • gordon
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            1510 months ago

            It really takes some very special conditions for that to happen. Every time I’ve boiled water in the microwave it’s always boiled fine just like on the stove.

            • @Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works
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              -510 months ago

              It takes leaving it in a bit too long and either moving or adding something to your water, it’s not that difficult.

              Third-degree burns aren’t something I’d really want to risk just for some coffee.

          • @Trainguyrom@reddthat.com
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            110 months ago

            I’ve not heard of this before but I also never boil my water in the microwave since it takes too long. Usually just warning it up (so 1 or 2 minutes depending on what I’m doing)

        • @colmear@discuss.tchncs.de
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          -310 months ago

          It is because you might create superheated water, which is not boiling while being above the boiling point. Since it can start boiling at any time, it can be a little dangerous to handle superheated water.

          • @AA5B@lemmy.world
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            -210 months ago

            That’s what really happened in Flint, MI. There was no contaminated water, it was only an experiment in public safety to add supplements to the water to prevent the hideous catastrophe of explosive boiling. It will soon be rolled out nationwide

        • gordon
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          1110 months ago

          Historically kettles never really caught on because we only have 110v power, so our kettles are bogus compared to nearly everywhere else in the world.

          • @AA5B@lemmy.world
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            I have to believe it’s also the popularity. Maybe it’s too much my own experience but:

            • most people drink coffee
            • tea drinkers historically didn’t have a high end

            Maybe I’m not sure how to phrase it but in my lifetime, coffee went from hideous burnt crap to something where we care about a high end. Coffee in general has gotten much better, there are way more choices, and there is a visible niche of people who spend way too much time and money looking for the perfect brew.

            In the US, tea is following this path, but much later. Most of my life tea drinkers may have argue over the best brand of tea bags, but it was the same old swill their Moms may have used (they may disagree with that characterization). It’s only much more recently that tea in the US has become a “thing” something people pay attention to, something with a “high end”. At the grocery, tea choices are not as wide as coffee, but now you have a much greater variety of brands, sources, flavors, preparation methods. Tea is only in recent years enough of a “thing” to get excited over, pay too much time and attention to.

            Or in my house, I don’t understand my teenagers and their weird tea drinking ways, when I have three different ways of making coffee. However this kettle thing is great for hot chocolate and caffe mocha

          • @AA5B@lemmy.world
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            110 months ago

            Plus they were boring and plain, who wants that in a kitchen. Now we have glass and chrome, cool electronics, blue LEDs, phone apps

          • @Rodeo@lemmy.ca
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            That demonstrates a fundamental ignorance of how electricity works.

            Voltage is only half the power equation. The other half is current. Power = voltage x current

            So if a kettle on 110V can draw twice the current, it will have exactly the same amount of power and will heat the water in exactly the same amount of time as a kettle on 220V that draws half the current.

            • gordon
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              010 months ago

              Bro, 15a is pretty much standard with 20a outlets being the exception. Still, most appliances are only 1500w in the US.

              Yes obviously you could custom make a 4500w kettle that ran on 115v but nobody sells one.

              Your comment demonstrates a fundamental ignorance… What? Who talks like that. Stupid pedantic fool.

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        110 months ago

        I mean if you don’t have a kettle, it’s a fine way of accomplishing the task.

        And if you don’t have a microwave?

        a) what are you doing with your life? You’re missing out!

        b) the stove top is the next option.

        If you don’t have a stove top?

        a) ok, now you’re most likely living rough. Sorry bro.

        b) light a campfire. If you also don’t have a pot, go get one, or use some other heatproof container.

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    I’m the same but not with coffee. I better drink it cold that rewarm. Everyone knows that “café bouillu, café foutu.”

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      810 months ago

      You know it’s possible to heat it up without boiling it.

      But it still tastes worse after heating up. That’s why dump hot chocolate mix in, like a real connoisseur!

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        You have to warm it very slowly. It’s pretty much impossible with a microwave but not with a saucepan.

        I might try you chocolate trick one day. What do you mean by chocolate mix? The kind you add in milk to make chocolate milk?

    • @pastermil@sh.itjust.works
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      No, that person would just drank the one in the microwave, put the one they were holding into the microwave and forget about it until tomorrow. Then the cycle goes on…