Hearing Europeans mock how much we pay for health care never gets old. I mean, the stupid high bills just don’t get the point across.I would be ecstatic with a single payer system supported by taxes. A system that doesn’t rely on an insurance company whose sole purpose is to deny me the coverage I am due. My favorite part is the fake astronomical prices they put on stuff just to charge insurance companies a “negotiated” price.I get that we, as a nation, truly suck. At best we are a corporatocracy. At worst, a straight oligarchy. We’ve got a feeble minded , racist, oompa loompa running for a second term as president. And he has a legit chance of winning! There is almost no part of our society that does not suck in some way. And the vast majority of us know it but the government is so bought and paid for that no real change is possible without bullets.But please, my European brothers and sisters, can you please stop rubbing it on our faces. I assure you we hurt enough already.(edit: a word)
It’s also not good cheese to start with. I think one British immigrant/expat described it as orange-died blocks of fat. I’m not entirely clear if that’s just because we’re tasteless heathens, or because the cheese making is also managed by the government monopoly with no concern for competition.
Lame! Well, also true, the dairy mafia is crazy, but you can do better.
Forest fires, no houses despite all the land and technology, the telecom mafia, Jean Chretien’s face, seal clubbing, that SS officer we just did a standing ovation for in parliament. And of course, if you need the big guns, native genocide.
I went to New Zealand and tried to get some prescription medication. But because I’m not here for 2 years I couldn’t register with a doctor!
So I had to pay for a private doctor. I found out online was the cheapest so I did that to save as much money as I could. Then when I got to the chemist they asked if I was here for 2 years and because I wasn’t I had to pay the foreigner price for my prescription. I felt like I was in America! Paying to see the doctor and for my medicine. All in all it came out to NZ$75 for two unrelated issues and the meds.
16 a day? A medical prescription here would usually target 1200 mg/day, maybe go as far as 2400 mg/day, but not a single milligram more, as that’s the maximum daily dose recommended before side effects start cropping up. You’re taking 3200 mg/day for extended periods of time? You’re poisoning yourself trying to escape pain.
When they give you ibuprofen following surgery, yea, it can be 800mg pills every 4 hours. It’s not the normal dose most people take. I didn’t say it was extended periods at that dose.
Otc, they max at 1200mg/day but it’s the same drug that by prescription the max is 3200mg/day.
I believed metabolized, but I’m not super intimate with its method of absorption.
Most people won’t take such large prolonged doses, but when you have a family of five, it’s not hard to go through a good number of these. It’s a rather safe drug with pain relieving, antiinflammatory properties and a fever reducer.
So muscle aches and headaches. It’s taken when someone has the flu. It can be taken to help with even a cold to help with the inflammation in the sinuses. It’s rather versatile. My back is spasming today, I’ve taken like 6 or 8 today.
Mainly just on the label. At a certain point their effectiveness may decrease slightly, but they dont go bad in any harmful way. Nor do they just stop working.
A lot of Americans have been trained to only look at dates and throw everything out after. It creates a lot of unnecessary waste.
I know people who throw out everything if it hits the date. Milk, eggs, yogurt, sour cream, canned goods. Food that’s still fine, but the magical date has been hit so they must buy more and feed the consumption machine.
Can confirm, I’m European and my mind cannot comprehend this.
1000 pills? I’ve never seen so many pills all at once. Do you use them to flavor your dishes or something?
Pill are cheaper than surgery.
Signed: an American.
You guys pay for surgeries??
Signed: a European
Hearing Europeans mock how much we pay for health care never gets old. I mean, the stupid high bills just don’t get the point across.I would be ecstatic with a single payer system supported by taxes. A system that doesn’t rely on an insurance company whose sole purpose is to deny me the coverage I am due. My favorite part is the fake astronomical prices they put on stuff just to charge insurance companies a “negotiated” price.I get that we, as a nation, truly suck. At best we are a corporatocracy. At worst, a straight oligarchy. We’ve got a feeble minded , racist, oompa loompa running for a second term as president. And he has a legit chance of winning! There is almost no part of our society that does not suck in some way. And the vast majority of us know it but the government is so bought and paid for that no real change is possible without bullets.But please, my European brothers and sisters, can you please stop rubbing it on our faces. I assure you we hurt enough already.(edit: a word)
Agreed. Like any cheap shot, it must be used strategically to remain classy.
Signed: A Canadian.
Edit: Of course, using all your shots at once in a busy place would be more American! BAHA! See what I did there???
It’s simple, we mock the costs of the American healthcare system, and mock prices of the Canadian cheese supply.
It’s also not good cheese to start with. I think one British immigrant/expat described it as orange-died blocks of fat. I’m not entirely clear if that’s just because we’re tasteless heathens, or because the cheese making is also managed by the government monopoly with no concern for competition.
Lame! Well, also true, the dairy mafia is crazy, but you can do better.
Forest fires, no houses despite all the land and technology, the telecom mafia, Jean Chretien’s face, seal clubbing, that SS officer we just did a standing ovation for in parliament. And of course, if you need the big guns, native genocide.
I went to New Zealand and tried to get some prescription medication. But because I’m not here for 2 years I couldn’t register with a doctor!
So I had to pay for a private doctor. I found out online was the cheapest so I did that to save as much money as I could. Then when I got to the chemist they asked if I was here for 2 years and because I wasn’t I had to pay the foreigner price for my prescription. I felt like I was in America! Paying to see the doctor and for my medicine. All in all it came out to NZ$75 for two unrelated issues and the meds.
So do you, just with taxes.
Except your taxes as an american are often higher, but don’t help you in any way.
So how many do you take a day, for this to make sense? A dead liver is also a big medical bill, I assume, but maybe that’s a future you problem.
Ibuprofen is metabolized in the kidneys, not the liver. That’s acetaminophen.
Dosage is 2 pills every 4 hours. But prescription strength is equal to 4 of these, so it could be as many as 16 a day.
16 a day? A medical prescription here would usually target 1200 mg/day, maybe go as far as 2400 mg/day, but not a single milligram more, as that’s the maximum daily dose recommended before side effects start cropping up. You’re taking 3200 mg/day for extended periods of time? You’re poisoning yourself trying to escape pain.
When they give you ibuprofen following surgery, yea, it can be 800mg pills every 4 hours. It’s not the normal dose most people take. I didn’t say it was extended periods at that dose.
Otc, they max at 1200mg/day but it’s the same drug that by prescription the max is 3200mg/day.
www.pdr.net/drug-summary/?drugLabelId=Ibuprofen-T…
So ~64 days, then. It all makes sense now.
TIL. Metabolised, or just peed out?
I believed metabolized, but I’m not super intimate with its method of absorption.
Most people won’t take such large prolonged doses, but when you have a family of five, it’s not hard to go through a good number of these. It’s a rather safe drug with pain relieving, antiinflammatory properties and a fever reducer.
So muscle aches and headaches. It’s taken when someone has the flu. It can be taken to help with even a cold to help with the inflammation in the sinuses. It’s rather versatile. My back is spasming today, I’ve taken like 6 or 8 today.
That’s actually insane. I never saw anyone taking more than 200mg every 8 hour, even after surgery.
You can get a 2x1000 pack at Costco
This is what I do. They last for years and years.
They do expire
They just get somewhat weaker, they don’t become toxic.
Mainly just on the label. At a certain point their effectiveness may decrease slightly, but they dont go bad in any harmful way. Nor do they just stop working.
Experience disagrees with you. They’re still effective painkillers
A lot of Americans have been trained to only look at dates and throw everything out after. It creates a lot of unnecessary waste.
I know people who throw out everything if it hits the date. Milk, eggs, yogurt, sour cream, canned goods. Food that’s still fine, but the magical date has been hit so they must buy more and feed the consumption machine.
We need them because it’s cheaper than going to the doctor. Headache? Ibuprofen. Cold or flu? Ibuprofen. Shattered femur? Ibuprofen.
Well, they are 200mg pills so you will need to take 4 at once for them to make a difference, multiple times per day
Isn’t 400mg the normal adult dose and 600 the bigger?
Those numbers are unamerican. Real Americans take 5 in the morning, 5 in the afternoon, and 8 to go to bed.