• @cybervseas@lemmy.world
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    1611 months ago

    Good if his lawyers are actually competent. Maybe he’ll listen to them this time. A good trial requires a good defense.

    • @dhork@lemmy.world
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      5511 months ago

      Donald Trump hasn’t listened to anyone (who doesn’t already agree with him) since his father died. These lawyers are smart enough to know that. This leak is all about making sure that when Trump does the dumb thing anyway, they don’t get disbarred over it.

    • @joe@lemmy.world
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      2211 months ago

      This might be a little bit reductive, but I’m pretty sure you can tell that they’re not competent lawyers because they are Trump’s lawyers.

      He’s known to ignore his lawyers, lie to them, refuse to pay them, and throw them under the bus. I can’t imagine a competent lawyer wanting that client. Maybe someone just looking to get their name plastered everywhere, aka some kind of grifter, but definitely not a competent lawyer.

        • @joe@lemmy.world
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          811 months ago

          Hopefully they’re still always meeting with him with another lawyer in the room so they can verify what he says.

          My point, I think, still stands.

    • @TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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      11 months ago

      I’m not interested in a ‘good’ trial. This isnt a netflix drama.

      Bruh. Whats so great about this is the schism that’s appeared between Trump supporters and literately everyone else.

            • @TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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              111 months ago

              In spirit, that strategically, the best thing is for Trump to have a defense that is competent enough to avoid a mistrial, but not competent enough to shield him from accountability in any meaningful way. This would be my preference.

              • @mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de
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                211 months ago

                I believe that it is obvious that he has committed crimes and should be held accountable for it. However, the spirit of our justice system as enshrined in the Bill of Rights is that everyone should get a fair trial and it shouldn’t be any difference in this case. In a fair trial he would be properly held accountable for his crimes, assuming a fair trial goes both ways.

                I do understand the sentiment behind wanting him to screw up so he is actually held accountable.

      • @cybervseas@lemmy.world
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        111 months ago

        A good trial is one where all sides have presented the strongest case they can, the judgement reflects the quality of those cases, and the verdict leaves no doubt in anyone’s mind that justice was done.

        Poor counsel leads to poor, untrustworthy outcomes.

        Yes I know, I am naive.

        • @PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee
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          211 months ago

          95% of all criminal cases end up in a plea bargain. The vast majority of Americans can’t afford a good lawyer anyway and get fucked by our legal system.