• @CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml
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    -411 months ago

    Omfg you people really spam every China related thread on our site huh? Forcing us to endure seeing your annoying asses at every corner, is there no way to block every hexbear user?

    • Flinch [he/him]
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      11311 months ago

      wojak-nooo why won’t you damn tankies let us lie about China??? STOP IT!! MODS!!!

    • lckdscl [they/them]
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      10211 months ago

      our site

      lol this is the fediverse, this is not your space, this is everyone’s space.

    • robot_dog_with_gun [they/them]
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      9211 months ago

      what do you mean, “you people”?

      and that annoyance you feel is nothing compared to the capitalist propaganda you’ve been swimming in your whole life.

      glasses-on

        • temptest [any]
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          9911 months ago

          What makes it spam? We’re invited to lemmy.ml, it shows up on our homepage the same as it does yours (probably even higher because instances more likely to downvote or ignore political posts don’t link with us atm).

          If you meant flooding, it’s not that either. We’re a big instance (1k users weekly) with a general interest in politics and a historical anti-lurking culture, so we’ll be disproportionately active in political threads compared to a general instance like lemmy.ml, just like programming.dev is in tech threads. Are we meant to just not share an opinion because too many other people in the same instance already posted their (different) opinion?

          • @HornyOnMain@hexbear.net
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            3911 months ago

            Ngl the anti lurking culture of hexbear has been so good for us being able to fucking bully libs coming in despite there maybe being a “silent majority” of ex-reddit libs who probably outnumber us but never post

            • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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              2811 months ago

              Back on Reddit we were like the third most active sub in sheer posting velocity after I think the NBA sub with 2.3 million members. They couldn’t keep us off the front page without fucking with the algo. It’s one of the main reasons they quarantined us.

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
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          8011 months ago

          You can just make your own instance where only people with brains as smooth as bowling balls are allowed and defederate with the rest of us. I guarantee you that everyone will be much happier.

      • @CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml
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        -911 months ago

        “You people” as in an overwhelmingly White-American group of people that spends their free time defending a brutal regime.

        • @freagle@lemmygrad.ml
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          11 months ago

          Hey there it is!! “Brutal regime” describes things like the ongoing cultural genocide of indigenous peoples, which itself is a continuation of the brutal mass murder and subjugation of those peoples. A BR (brutal regime) does things like enforce debt against Haiti for having the audacity to free itself from slavery and using the debt to ensure the white financiers who bought those slaves don’t lose any money while simultaneously refusing to engage in any form of reparations. A BR separates children from their parents for an an unbroken multi-century program of violent oppression against non-whites. If you rank every country in the world by the most bombs dropped on it, there’s only one BR that is responsible for the top 3 most bombed countries in the history of the world.

          But do go on about how those ebil Chinese are so compliant in approving their government for 15 years at a rate of 95% (just ask Harvard) despite that government being a “brutal regime”. Must be something in their culture, right?

            • @freagle@lemmygrad.ml
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              -211 months ago

              LOL, nothing could be easier to grasp. It is absolutely logically possible for both China and the USA to be brutal regimes. However, it is not empirically true. Try educating yourself instead of screaming nonsense into the void.

              • @CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml
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                211 months ago

                Right because the 300 million exploited migrant workers in China are definitely not facing abuse, and minority populations like the Uyghurs have definitely not been called terrorists and put in camps, and LGBT face equal rights, and ultranationalist xenophobic rhetoric totally isn’t commonplace among the CCP, and separatists totally aren’t met with threats of force…

                • @freagle@lemmygrad.ml
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                  -411 months ago

                  minority populations like the Uyghurs have definitely not been called terrorists

                  They were literally put on a terrorist watch list by the USA. The CIA launched a program to foment a separatist movement for East Turkistan as a way of destabilizing China, just like the CIA trained Tibetan terrorists and airlifted them into the region to commit acts of violence, again to destabilize the region.

                  The 300 million exploited migrant workers in China re not facing centuries of genocide, forced famine, nuclear holocaust, carpet bombing, systematized rape and child separation, forced sterilization, solitary confinement, solitary confinement of toddlers, nor put into displacement concentration camps and have everything stolen from them. That’s what the US has done and is actively doing right now. Of course the migrant workers in China are dealing with terrible conditions, as are migrant workers in all countries, especially the US. That does not make China a brutal regime in the slightest. The root cause of those migrant workers needing to be migrants in the first place is deliberate and genocidal underdevelopment of the global south by North Atlantic powers. Read. A. Fucking. Book.

                  LGBT face equal rights

                  Fucking chauvinism. Honestly. The people of China are making their way through various social justice reforms at the pace of 1.4 billion people all coming to terms with their collective trauma induced by a century of humiliation and subjugation by the West. Give them some time while they figure it out. It’s not like the highest court in the land is overturning established law on a regular basis to make people’s lives worse, that’s a USA thing. In China, it’s more of a slow and steady social progress as they only recently lifted 800 million people out of poverty. People are understandably a bit more focused on other issues right now.

                  ultranationalist xenophobic rhetoric totally isn’t commonplace among the CCP

                  it’s not. Honestly it’s not. I don’t know what you think you’re reading, but you’re not actually reading anything put out by literally anyone in China, let alone the CPC. The party is very clear about it’s position - peace, prosperity, interdependence, improving quality of life starting with the poorest, and coexistence. Where else do you hear “one country, two systems” except China? Where else does a colony get returned to a country after a century of subjugation by the West and the country establishes a plan to slowly integrate that colony back into the country over a literal century? What other country in the world has autonomous governing regions of multiple nationalities where they teach native languages at all levels? There is absolutely nothing even remotely resembling the ultranationalist xenophobia of the West. Like, you’re just going to give the West a pass on average reporters saying “This situation in Ukraine is dire. It’s not like these are people from Iraq or Afghanistan. These are blonde haired and blue eyed people we’re talking about here”. The ultranationalism and xenophobia has always been and will always be a European structure. It gave rise to Euro fascism, which was literally just the Western colonial project direct inward. No, there is no ultranationalistic xenophobic rhetoric that is commonplace in the CPC. You are delusional.

                  and separatists totally aren’t met with threats of force…

                  Uh. What the fuck? In what world are separatists NOT met with force? That has nothing to do with being a brutal regime. For fucks sake, US cops kill more black people in a year than China kills separatists. The Hong Kong protests went on for so long explicitly because the Chinese did not violently engage. 200 Chinese soldiers were killed by armed students in Tienanmen explicitly because they were given orders not to fight back.

                  Compare that to literal unmarked plainclothes law officers (federal?) kidnapping people during BLM protests, or the literal constant stream of murders around Cop City in Atlanta. And that’s just domestically! This says nothing about the death squads the US trains, arms, and directs against innocent families through the entire continent of South America in order to scare everyone into passivity, let alone the massive drug trade, the countless assassinations, and the federal coverups of all of it.

                  You are projecting all of the evils of North Atlantic white society onto China and think that the yellow journalism, opinion pieces, and social media brain rot amplification is literal reality. You are lost. You are literally incapable of seeing reality and instead comfort yourself when faced with your very limited awareness of white Euro atrocities by assuming that China is literally as cartoonishly evil as the Western propagandists make them out to be.

    • Leon_Grotsky [comrade/them]
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      11 months ago

      Excuse me, I’m here to show my support for Comrade Joe

      biden-leftist

      it just so happens to also be a China thread

      p.s.

      You can probably block entire instances using one of the 3pa

    • @psilocybin@discuss.tchncs.de
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      11 months ago

      Dude, take a break!

      I mean I completely disagree with you, but this thread can’t be healthy for you. What purpose is it serving to get enraged here?

      I’d say take a breather and if you dare: ask yourself how reliable your impression of China really is, maybe research some older claims that have been proven to be misrepresented or false, like this for example. Not saying you have to become a fan, but there seems to be a propaganda effort to prepare the public for a economic/military war with China. So more people need to be sceptical.

      You seem to haven’t accepted it yet, but the capitalist class, through the means of communication they control, construct most impressions you have of foreign countries (without them being able to interject) and facts are negligable as they have been in the news-medias support of every US war effort in history as well.

      I got a little carried away, but I meant it in good faith, you decided to wear a badge of socialism after all.

      What you do is obviously up to you!

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        1711 months ago

        Our secret is that we get a 20$ kickback from a cardiologist in Fresno every time one of these people pops. It’s not honest, not is it much, and yet we soldier on.

    • m-p{3}
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      411 months ago

      At least on mobile apps you can block an entire instance, hopefully that’s a feature we’ll see on Lemmy itself one day.

    • CMD
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      111 months ago

      @CatholicSocialist @marx_mentat You should be able to block domains on lemmy as a user - just about every other fedi instance allows you to do this.

      NSFW emojis - such as their pigpoopballs - often gets places defed, if you’re mad enough you might bring that up to your instance admin.