Get fuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked
“This isn’t going to stop,” Allen told the New York Times. “Art is dead, dude. It’s over. A.I. won. Humans lost.”
“But I still want to get paid for it.”
Get fuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked
“This isn’t going to stop,” Allen told the New York Times. “Art is dead, dude. It’s over. A.I. won. Humans lost.”
“But I still want to get paid for it.”
Most of the people posting here currently live under capitalism. Unless you have solutions you want to advocate for now that for some reason you left unsaid in your post, it sounds more like a “stop complaining” proposal.
That’s not what I’m saying though. It’s more that I think arguing for better protections under IP law is akin to participating in get out the vote campaigns for democrats. If the goal is to better conditions for working people including artists, neither of those avenues will lead you anywhere.
Again.
Post your your supposed “solutions” to advocate for.
Otherwise you still read like you’re a treat printer enjoyer that wants everyone to stop complaining, no matter how the planet burns.
You’re only reading me that way because you’re lumping my arguments in with all the pro AI nonsense that’s out there. I honestly don’t care for any of the slop AI models tend to produce and it’s not reasonable to assume that I do.
Also my arguments stand on their own. Even if there are no near term solutions to the plight of artists that doesn’t mean reifying the concept of intellectual property is worth anything.
Then stop bullshitting and actually provide what I asked for. Post your supposed “solutions” to advocate for.
That’s irrelevant to the legitimacy of my argument. I can tell you rhino horn isn’t going to fix your love life without telling you what will. That said I’m an ML. I don’t believe most artists will be fairly compensated for their labor until we can actually abolish capitalism.
You DID NOT provide ANY complete argument. Are there no solutions that you had to propose to begin with?
Thought so.
I mean if you don’t want to read what I wrote you can claim I never wrote anything at all I guess.
You told everyone to stop complaining and vaguely hinted at “solutions” that you did not provide.
Maybe those “solutions” aren’t there because you fucking couldn’t think of them.
the complaints need to not be shit that defends IP, which a lot of comments hexbears make end up doing
I haven’t seen that for some time, unless you’re broad brushing people that don’t like when artists stop getting commissions or lose their livelihoods entirely.
people are in this very thread saying that AI is “stealing” art. I fundamentally think that this reinforces the idea of IP
In the current economic system you’re saying that artists trying to get paid for making art should effectively cease to exist.
I mean I don’t mind artists setting up patreons or doing commission, but I also don’t really care if something they post publicly gets “stolen”
Nah this is lib shit.
I just noticed that you’re arguing with a 4 day old account that name-dropped me in the title of one of his own threads.
man never thought I’d have the honor to be randomly attacked for no reason because you got into an argument with me, I was unaware there was a rule against deleting your accounts and making new ones every so often to make yourself harder to doxx. I namedropped you because we literally talked about AI the night prior and i thought you would find it funny
attacking IP is lib shit?
No attacking artists for trying to avoid having their work (labor) stolen is lib shit. I am not arguing with you because there is nothing to argue about with a liberal.
Feel that way if you must, but I am explaining why a lot of people here aren’t quite as bazinga for the treat printers when it comes to driving artists entirely out of the craft because of economic precarity, consequently leading to even more expansion of the bland and bleak brave new world of treat printers.
the vast majority of artists don’t make money doing art and never will if they don’t work at a company I don’t understand this take. maybe it’s because I’m so into fanfiction but like there will always be millions of people making more art than you know what to do with. I’m not saying you have to like the AI art, most of it really is quite shit which is a fine criticism that companies are blowing billions on shit art but like they do it either way, I think the best criticism of AI treat machines like you’ve said is how environmentally wasteful it is
Are you so certain of that?
You may be more correct there than you realize, especially regarding my first question there.
Yeah fanfiction is cool and good but there really are people, from paid-by-commission artists to graphic designers to writers under publisher contracts that are all affected by treat printers. Their material conditions have worsened and precarity has increased. “You got yours,” so to speak, but that doesn’t mean you speak for everyone else there. Losing a job sucks; that shouldn’t be hard for you to understand.