• ѕєχυαℓ ρσℓутσρє
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    Anon thinks speaking and writing in a language is all there is to do in a bachelor’s degree. You literally have to read thousands of pages of literature, and need to be able to analyze those pieces critically.

    Guys, is lying allowed on the Internet? I’m starting to think that Anon never even set foot in a college.

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      Reads thousands of pages of sparknotes or the study guides on your class google doc cheat sheet? Or studies the past tests that your frat makes available?

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        You can pass using them, sure. But you can’t be anywhere near cum laude. I teach college kids, it’s easy to tell when someone’s mindlessly writing shit.

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          Yeah, I was cum laude(3.8) and I didnt read almost anything from my breadth classes. What I did was kinda funny. Lets say I needed to write a paper where i needed to use a certain amount of quotes from a book. What i would actually do is prewrite everything and leave blank spaces for quotes, then I would turn to random pages, scan through to see if something looks like it matches what I am saying and bada bing it into my paper. The funny part is when I get my criticism back and the professor/TAs say it was insightful or some shit.

          I think in my years as a student, i only read the textbooks for my major and thats it. (Thats aside from all the research papers I had to pour over ofcourse) Nowadays with gpt kids in these humanitarian type courses do even lazier shit. I have personally seen people ask GPT to write sentence by sentence for english composition essays so it doesnt get detected.

          I didnt even cheat my major shit though. I know personally of many people in frats who held onto past exams… they didnt even bother trying to read the book, they just tried to memorize the problems/solution key. It was actually quite frustrating as they would be driving up the curve.

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            I guess humanities can be different then. I teach STEM students, and here you definitely need to understand what you’re doing.

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              Yeah I was originally talking about the post but as I said I was in stem and cheating still happens. It just depends on certain courses and how new the professors are in the system. Lets say I was studying for physical chemistry. I knew for 100% sure that there were students that cheated for everything because we had a tenured professor who had a known cycle of using tests from 4 years back. The (theta tau? I dont remember) frat also coincidentally had a catalogue of the last 10+ years worth of tests for that major. As fate had it, half the class had perfect scores on their exams and homework.

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                Wish I had a professor like that when I was undergrad lol. Bastards made up new problems every single time. Can’t even find them online later. Assignment problems were even harder.

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                  Yeah maybe I was lucky? I guess I can only use limited experience as an example but I was a fucking nerd so yeah.

    • @GBU_28@lemm.ee
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      Why couldn’t he do that? Anyone can do that, he has the language proficiency to consume the content

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            Turns out most of the white collar world runs like that too- show up early, late, or not at all; if your deliverables hit the bosses’ desk by deadline, you’re cream of the crop.

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              My manager has a bee in his bonnet about people being in on time, and he will come and yell at everybody if he notices someone turning up at about 9:15 rather than 9:00. The thing is he gets in it about 6:00 and then goes home at 3:30 and disappears from about 10:00 till 2:00 on a massive lunch, my official start time is 9:30 but often he isn’t actually in the main office, so how the hell does he know if people are turning up on time.

              So we don’t. He’s hasn’t noticed.

      • @Cryophilia@lemmy.world
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        That’s what they say, but in practice it’s just a class filter. Punctuality and hoop jumping matters MUCH MORE in blue collar jobs than white collar.

        It’s literally just saying “your family was wealthy enough that you weren’t forced to enter the labor market to support your relatives when you were a teenager”.

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          I bootstrapped my way through college because poor family. But at 40 I’m making more than all but one cousin in my entire extended family, aunts/uncles/grandparents all make less than me because none of them went to college save for that one cousin. My degree was in organizational communication and was absolutely the thing that opened the doorway for me, and as much as I loved the major, it’s technically useless.

      • @ThePyroPython@feddit.uk
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        Indeed, foreign language teaching and translation work are made significantly easier to get into if you have a degree.

      • Random Dent
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        Yeah none of the jobs I’ve ever had have cared at all what my degree is in, it just shows that you can put up with bullshit for at least 3 years without having a freakout.

  • Decoy321
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    I mean, they still spent all that money to just be a language major for a teaching job on another continent.

  • Narrrz
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    I’m a native English speaker with an English teacher for a parent and i didn’t even pass highschool English.

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      I’d imagine there is also a lot more to a language BA than just being able to perfectly speak it, but I don’t really know.

      • Yes there’s going to be a literature component and probably history and politics, although OP’s Italian equivalent of high school might have prepared him for those somewhat.

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      I can pick out regional North American accents, if he had any American peers I bet there were suspicions.

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        Not that this happened, but there absolutely would have been at least one suspicion. Nobody doesn’t have an accent of some sort, and he’d have no way of knowing how accurate his pronunciation is all the way from Italy among other Italians. Everyone thinks they sound good til they hear themselves on a recording. His only way out would be to say his family is italian-american but he doesn’t know the language very well. He might think of that. He’s also on 4chan, though.

        However, Americans are highly curious about others as a rule and the women reportedly thought he was at least ok, so someone would have asked where he was from regardless of what he sounded like. And then he would have been stuck playing 20 questions about a randomly chosen region he isn’t familiar with and hoping to god whoever he’s talking to isn’t from there.

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      Speaking English with an accent from anywhere sounds weird but apart from a select few states, Americans sound so weird to me.

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      Language has nothing to do with intelligence, why does that one bit matter? It’s your environment that matters for language, there are plenty of stupid people from Europe or India or whatever who speak 2-5 languages like anyone else would… there are also plenty of Italians who are native English speakers because they grew up watching content by English-speaking people online (I know a few myself)

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    Yeah, bet that went as well as all the Hispanic kids in high school taking Spanish as their ‘easy A’… It was hilarious when they realized their easy A course turned out to be their hardest one because they didn’t speak the particular dialect being taught and had to relearn their language to pass.

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    Still had to know two languages well, that’s far from fuck all lol

  • @lorty@lemmy.ml
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    This person is not only lying their ass off, but made clear they don’t even speak a second language. Just because you learned colloquial italian or whatever doesn’t mean you actually know a single gramatical rule, or better yet, how that language is written in formal texts, documents etc.

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      I know how English is written in formal documents. I don’t know in depth grammar but in general I wouldn’t need to. I just say what sounds correct. Why would an Italian person be unable to do the same?

      edit: To be clear I’m not saying he isn’t lying. He definitely is.

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    Can you have a degree in a language course? Like I get you can minor in languages, but can you major in it? Also what’s his minor going to be if it is possible to major in a language course.

    I’m not even American and I can see that this story is made up BS.